[hiredhand]

By the time we get to that point (regional secession, even “virtual” secession) the USA won't even be recognizable.

Things are happening a lot faster than anybody would like to admit. The MSM and government leadership has been caught lying so many times and to such depth that I'm surprised that anybody believes them anymore about ANYTHING. But I believe from what I hear that the bad economic situation is a lot worse and a lot more progressed than anybody who is supposed to know will admit right now. They (our leadership) are really in a tough spot (not that they don't deserve to be there!). But so long as they let the crazies predict gloom and doom while they pull a Wizard of Oz act from behind the curtain, they can hold off the results of masses of panicked people until the scope of the problem simply can't be covered any longer. In truth, a lot more people are realizing how big and bad the problem is and it's getting hard for even our professional liars in D.C. to cover up for much longer.

I say we're officially screwed. It's already happened, and there's nothing that the government or anybody else can do about it. The only people who HAVE money aren't spending. This concerns me, because if our dim witted leaders ever really figure this out, the logical conclusion is that they use aggression and force to take from those who have. Or (and this is a paranoid suggestion), they'll simply demonize those who have and create a division between them and the have-nots and then we'll have a big turkey shoot when the mass robbery starts. But the news will report that a bunch of rich tighty-whities with guns shoot a bunch of poor people who were unarmed Hmmmm...I seem to have read this somewhere recently.... wink/wink...nudge/nudge. :-)

Either way you break it down logically, it's a bad scene on the horizon...that much is certain.

[Travis McGee]

I love the Spanish expression for “between a rock and a hard place.”

They say, “Between the wall and the sword.”

That’s where we are now. It doesn’t hurt much until it’s too late.

[justa-hairyape]

You might have a point. The Russians are sure acting like the US is history. Perhaps they know how the geopolitical chess game will end. The West played a strong opening game, forced the East into a Russian Gambit, which has incredibly succeeded and now the end game is certain. So the Russians waltz into Georgia, public opinion be damned. Russians turn off the gas to Europe, public opinion be damned. Islamic protestors own the streets of Europe, public opinion be damned. The East knows the end and knows there is nothing we can do about it. And quite frankly, with all the idiot grifters running DC, how can we possibly have a good outcome ? Trillion dollar deficits ? Its over. Time to plan the rebuild IMHO.