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To: Allegra
My dad told me that in the 60s, magazines like Time and Newsweek were pretty objective.

Boomers (Eye our won, two) have wrecked Western Civilization's institutions, great and minor. The press, the academy, the church, the family, the courts, the arts. The military (in the U.S.) seems to be one of the few that have somewhat withstood the assault, but even it is in the crosshairs today.

Pick up a copy of Readers' Digest from the fifties at a yard sale. It wasn't Pollyannaish, it was more sophisticated than the popular press today, by far, more witty, insightful, interesting, provocative. It is painful to compare Scientific American in 1960 to 2009. The New York Times tended towards Nelson Rockefeller liberalism, but it was pretty balanced, and intelligently written. Today it often reads like a parody of a high school newspaper. Think Maureen Dowd.

17 posted on 01/13/2009 2:43:08 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Oh, I know how the New York Times reads today. I've read many of their fiction pieces, covering a variety of topics.

We don't have garage sales where I live, but one of these days, maybe I'll find an old copy of Reader's Digest. I remember my grandmother having many of their condensed story collections when she was alive that I would peruse when I visited as a kid.

Dad (retired 28-year Navy vet) told me that when he was at the Pentagon in the early 70s, there was a paper put out entitled "How to Read the Washington Post." It gave instructions on how to glean the morsel of truth through all of the liberal editorializing. That was about the time I started reading the newspaper, so I don't remember a time it didn't have a strong left slant.

19 posted on 01/13/2009 3:00:44 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You are correct about the changes in media.

However, I am not so quick to blame the Boomers. I am not a Boomer. Born in 1943, I am a War Baby, although we all have younger Boomer siblings.

I did my time on the Left. The organizers I had contact with were people who are now in their 80s or are dead. Many Boomers were successfully inculcated over decades and then, were available to support the academic/media inculcation of their own children. There are members of the War Baby and Boomer cohorts who were not successfully inculcated. There are fewer resistors in the Gen X cohort, which IMO, is a result of their inculcation being from their parents as well as from the schools/media.

It is an ongoing, complex undertaking to unravel the processes that have brought our world and society to this present point. In the case of Israel, I think many Boomer Jews believe that if there wasn't an Israeli state, then they would never have to personally confront anti-Semitism. So they join with the hard Left in condemning Israel. Of course, if Israel is destroyed, all Jews, everywhere, regardless of degree of faith practice, are vulnerable. Once the Jews are gone, the Christians will be the next target. After that, the factions of Islam and the factions of the present Left will fight each other. Then, there will be nothing left to fight over.

My husband is Norwegian. His father and uncles were partisans who did all they could to aid the Brits against the Nazis. Before they became enablers of the Islamic Nazis, the Norwegians became socialists, convinced they had found the right way of living. We traveled a lot during the 1980s/1990s and met many young Norwegians who seemed quite arrogant and entitled. I have met some as adults in the past 10-12 years, mostly visitors to the USA. They, too, seemed convinced they were among the most righteous of societies and that we should all follow their example. At some point, they will probably see their mistakes, but I am unsure of they will correctly discern the reasons that their society is failing. They may blame the West and the Jews instead of group think and socialism.

25 posted on 01/13/2009 10:48:36 AM PST by reformedliberal
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