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To: PalmettoMason
PalmettoMason posted:
I have often wondered which side the cops would take when it comes down to a choice of supporting and defending either a corrupt, oppressive government or the Constitution.

It won't be so simple. There are quite a few police out there who will support their oath to defend the Constitution. However, we will be best served by them staying inside the system and providing intelligence rather than by them resigning from the force in protest.

In a lot of states, federal laws will simply not be enforced. In *Canada*, a number of provinces simply refused to enforce their draconian gun registry. Civil resistance was massive. A few people went to jail, but they have changed governments and the Conservatives made it a campaign pledge to eliminate the draconian “long gun” registry, which is what was being resisted. I am not sure that they will win, but they have a good shot, and we should be able to do better.

Having people on our side *inside* the system will be an enormous help.

35 posted on 01/16/2009 8:56:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
There are quite a few police out there who will support their oath to defend the Constitution. However, we will be best served by them staying inside the system and providing intelligence rather than by them resigning from the force in protest.

I wish that I shared your optimism.

Unfortunately, I read stories here every day of police who use their authority to abuse, harm, and even kill citizens. Then, I look at the comments, and some who claim to be LEOs(supposedly Conservative FReepers) post some pretty outrageous replies in defense of some of the worst cases. It generally deteriorates into the dreaded "us vs. them" argument in which the LEOs (or those who claim to be) end up bragging about their abuse of people. Just this week, one of the usual suspects bragged about how much he enjoyed confiscating people's personal property over traffic (equipment) violations. Not that he did it because it was his job... not because it made the community safer...but because he got off on it. Is it too much of a stretch to think he will feel any differently when he comes to take your guns? After all, if taking someone's vehicle made him feel powerful, how much more of a power trip will it be when he and those like him are the only ones with the power to decide which of the rest of your property you should be allowed to keep?

These SWAT guys had to know that there was no reasonable reason for them (as SWAT officers) to be there. These were law abiding citizens using their Constitutional right to freely assemble. SWAT had to know that their presence was an intimidation tactic, yet they went along because they were just "following orders".

Where have we heard THAT before?

40 posted on 01/16/2009 9:38:04 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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