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To: Liberty1970
Biblical creationists can’t possibly compete with atheists/agnostics when it comes to believing in absurd things with blind faith.

I agree with you in your point, but I love this kind of stuff. I think it's great that God allows us to find out more about the universe, and it all points to Him. It just makes me realize how *little* we understand, and how great God is. (And to think He became one of us!)

This article fascinated me because I instantly thought of Plato's Forms. Which also reminded me (a little) of Paul's saying "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known".

(From Wikipedia -- I know, not the best reference, but the most handy):

"A Form is aspatial (outside the world) and atemporal (outside time). Atemporal means that it does not exist within any time period. It did not start, there is no duration in time, and it will not end. It is neither eternal in the sense of existing forever or mortal, of limited duration. It exists outside time altogether. Forms are aspatial in that they have no spatial dimensions, and thus no orientation in space, nor do they even (like the point) have a location. They are non-physical, but they are not in the mind. Forms are extra-mental.

A Form is an objective "blueprint" of perfection. The Forms are perfect themselves because they are unchanging. For example, say we have a triangle drawn on a blackboard. A triangle is a polygon with 3 sides. The triangle as it is on the blackboard is far from perfect. However, it is only the intelligibility of the Form "triangle" that allows us to know the drawing on the chalkboard is a triangle, and the Form "triangle" is perfect and unchanging. It is exactly the same whenever anyone chooses to consider it; however, the time is that of the observer and not of the triangle.

The pure land

The Forms exist in a rarefied sector of the universe.

But the true earth is pure (katharan) and situated in the pure heaven (en katharōi ouranōi) ... and it is the heaven which is commonly spoken by us as the ether (aithera) ... for if any man could arrive at the extreme limit ... he would acknowledge that this other world was the place of the true heaven (ho alethōs ouranos) and the true light (to alethinon phōs) and the true earth (hē hōs alēthōs gē)."


29 posted on 01/18/2009 5:28:09 PM PST by agrarianlady
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To: agrarianlady

I just think that GEO600 picked up the noise of the janitor running the vacuum cleaner....


33 posted on 01/18/2009 5:43:55 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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