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Michael Medved Unhinged over Birth Certificate (vanity)
vanity | 01/19/2009 | FreeAtlanta

Posted on 01/19/2009 3:56:47 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: Ramius

Amen, brother.


21 posted on 01/19/2009 4:14:06 PM PST by DeepThought42 (No mercy, no quarter.)
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To: Parley Baer

I stopped listening to Medved as well.


22 posted on 01/19/2009 4:14:43 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: FreeAtlanta

Right, so many things are unreliable, including Medved and the U.S. Supreme Court. The reliable things make a much shorter list.


23 posted on 01/19/2009 4:15:56 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: YellowRoseofTx

It does seem that the birth announcement came just a few days after the alleged birth. But it did not give the hospital. How many hospital were there in 1961 in Honolulu? Maybe it was a “home” birth.


24 posted on 01/19/2009 4:17:09 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: FreeAtlanta

All should agree that it is unacceptable that none of our states check the qualifications of presidential nominees.

All that is required of major party candidates is a statement that they are qualified.


25 posted on 01/19/2009 4:17:09 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Star Traveler
No, because Obama actually becomes President at the appropriate time on January 20th. That means that the House must impeach and then the Senate must convict for a President to be removed.

Nope, you're wrong again. Impeachment only applied to qualified presidents, this one is a fraud and was elected under fraudulent circumstances. The election would null and void, impeachment would not apply.

26 posted on 01/19/2009 4:17:26 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Ramius

ain’t that the truth!! totally agree with ya.


27 posted on 01/19/2009 4:18:04 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: FreeAtlanta

Medved was the same way about illegals. He was just completely closed minded.


28 posted on 01/19/2009 4:19:32 PM PST by Nachum
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To: YellowRoseofTx; Mr. K

You said — “Sorry, this only applies to qualified Presidents. In this case, the election would be null and void due to zero being unqualified and having usurped the office through fraud”

Well, here’s the thing about “qualified”. It’s that he’s qualified *right now*. The reason why? Well, very simply because no one has proven him to be “not qualified” and he’s taking the office as through normal means and normal channels, and he’s affirmed his “qualifications” through legal paperwork that he’s filed at various Secretaries of State to get on the ballot (along with the Party filing the paperwork). It’s all been done in the normal fashion as prior Presidents.

So, since a person’s “rights” can’t be taken away without “due process” being done first — that means that — at the present time — Obama *is qualified* legally.

Thus, while he’s still not President, it’s possible that a court could say he can’t take office and not allow him to *become* President (with the proper legal paperwork having been affirmed in a court of law, of course, to prove that...).

But, after he has taken office, only the Congress can give the “President” — due process — and remove him from office. You see, *that* is the *trial* and *conviction* of an individual who is in that office. That’s how it works.

You’re asking to step outside of the Constitution and do it in a way that the Constitution has not provided — while the Constitution explicitly *has provided* the methodology very clearly (in the way of Impeachment and Conviction)...


29 posted on 01/19/2009 4:20:31 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Fraud is fraud...he would have assumed the Presidency under false pretense and a good old “Arrest” can take place. Would that not be grand???...no sarcasm intended


30 posted on 01/19/2009 4:21:04 PM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: FreeAtlanta; All
It's "Present Obama" = Without ID
31 posted on 01/19/2009 4:21:16 PM PST by musicman (It's "Present Obama" = Without ID)
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To: Theodore R.
How many hospital were there in 1961 in Honolulu? Maybe it was a “home” birth.

One of the hospitals he claimed to have been born in wasn't even built at the time of this birth. There is no record in any hospital in Hawaii of his mother having been in a hospital, much less giving birth.

32 posted on 01/19/2009 4:21:17 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: dogbyte12

An announcement in a newspaper makes it official? LOL. That’s pathetic.


33 posted on 01/19/2009 4:23:37 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: rogue yam

Medved also trashed the Mexican “Corridor” plan as not existing...untill it was PROVEN to Be True.

Now he is just another Moderate Excuse Maker...

he is worse than a Liberal.


34 posted on 01/19/2009 4:23:43 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: dogbyte12

You know the rules. Every time you make an unsubstantiated claim you have to show us the evidence.


35 posted on 01/19/2009 4:23:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Star Traveler

*LOL* Just keep thinking what you want, but you are wrong on all counts and you wanting it to be that way isn’t going to make it that way. But keep on.


36 posted on 01/19/2009 4:23:54 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
Impeachment only applied to qualified presidents, this one is a fraud and was elected under fraudulent circumstances. The election would null and void, impeachment would not apply.

What do you base that on? As far as I've ever seen, the Constitution and CFRs are silent on any specific process in that sort of case, and since it hasn't happened before there's no precedent. As far as I know the closest thing was a time when the State of California pulled somebody off the ballot because they were not yet old enough. Beyond that, it's never happened and the law isn't clear.

Impeachment would be the logical legal route, if it were discovered after the fact that a person didn't meet the basic qualifications.

But it's not going to happen anyway. Time to let it go.

37 posted on 01/19/2009 4:25:08 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Well, I didn’t write the Constitution, so I didn’t necessarily “want it” to be that way. You’ll have to talk to the founding fathers about the Impeachment process. I’m out of the loop on why they did it that way... :-)


38 posted on 01/19/2009 4:25:46 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: FreeAtlanta
"Medved, I appreciate the time to air the BC story, but the condescension was grating."

Can you say "irony"? :-)

39 posted on 01/19/2009 4:26:33 PM PST by mlo
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To: Star Traveler
Well, here’s the thing about “qualified”. It’s that he’s qualified *right now*. The reason why? Well, very simply because no one has proven him to be “not qualified” and he’s taking the office as through normal means and normal channels, and he’s affirmed his “qualifications” through legal paperwork that he’s filed at various Secretaries of State to get on the ballot (along with the Party filing the paperwork). It’s all been done in the normal fashion as prior Presidents. Sorry, but he's not proven to anyone that he's a natural born citizen. Someone saying in a document that he is a natural born citizen is not the same thing as his proving it. See the difference?
40 posted on 01/19/2009 4:27:26 PM PST by Technical Editor
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