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To: atlaw
As you can see from the available literature, evolutionary biology overlaps many scientific fields, including organic chemistry, genetics, paleontology, geology, cell biology, zoology, etc. The point being that there is a great deal of "evidence to weigh," and if high school students will eventually be expected to "weigh" that evidence and "decide for themselves," they will need a solid grounding in it.

I will go you one step further. Darwinian Evolution is the bedrock premise of the aforementioned sciences, and the current state of the science will be severely affected (biology) if not destroyed (paleontology) by the removal of the foundation.

Did I intentionally simplify the skulls, you betcha. However, reading of the articles you have posted, will not "disabuse" me of anything. Each time I read one, and carefully disect it, I realize it is built on a series of assumptions, postulations, assertions and conjectures, that might explain the state of the evidence examined. However, I don't buy it. There is so much guessing and back patting, it is silly. For example if you click the second "here" link, click the "evolution resources" link and then click the first link and then click the first article, you will find the following, of which I pulled the first 2 questions as an example:

Animals: Tracing Their Heritage
Nicole King
An ActionBioscience.org original interview

Do animals have a common origin?
King: Yes. All animals, from sponges to jellyfish to vertebrates [animals with a backbone], can be traced to a common ancestor. So far, molecular and fossil evidence indicate that animals evolved at least 600 million years ago. The fossil record does not reveal what the first animals looked like or how they lived. Therefore, my lab and other research groups around the world are investigating the nature of the first animals by studying diverse living organisms.

Wow. We know they evolved 600 million years ago, but we don't have any "proof" in the way of a fossil record, so we will "guess" what the looked like by looking at things that are alive 600 million tears later. Now THAT is science! It get better.

You study multicellularity. Is there a connection to animal origins?
King: Eukaryotes [organisms with membrane-bound nuclei] range from those with a single cell, such as the amoeba, to complex multicellular animals, including humans. The vast majority of life on Earth has been dominated by unicellular life. At some point in the lineage leading to animals, multicellularity evolved. Multicellular organisms are those that have many cells. Their cells depend on each other, functioning in concert to sustain the life of the organism. So, the common ancestor of animals was a single cell.

No proof, just more gobblygook cause and effect effect reasoning. "At some point...multicellularity evolved...So, the common ancestor of animals was a single cell." No proof, no data, never been replicated in a science lab, just belief in the magic of genetic mutation and natural selection.

Every so called journal article I have looked at, while scary and full of big words that hurt to read, are full of the same silliness.

59 posted on 01/23/2009 3:37:44 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

That is exactly what I found reading the journals also. At the base of their evidence that is what you have, alot of nothing.


63 posted on 01/23/2009 4:09:02 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: jimmyray

Holy cow. No “proof” in an interview. No footnotes or lab work or field work or methodologies at all. Just a bunch of conclusory answers to the interviwer’s questions. How stupid do those so-called scientists think we is?

Nevertheless, I’m impressed. Given your apparently enormous font of knowledge and thorough grasp of the science, however, I have to wonder why you aren’t publishing devastating critiques of the pure “gobbleygook” being spouted by the medical researchers, geneticists, and biologists who authored those 109,000 articles you breezed through. You’d be doing modern medicine a great service (not to mention exposing the whole of the clearly fraudulent science community).

By the way, given your obvious expertise, what exact “weaknesses” of evolution would you teach high school kids?


64 posted on 01/23/2009 4:20:44 PM PST by atlaw
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