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re: Coyoteman's primate skull cladogram:

There is no reason - none in the world - to think that the cladogram which you posted has any relevance to anything at all. It's just some palaeontologist arranging a variety of human and primate skulls, in various states of quality, into a structure that he or she thought looked like it fit together, assuming the unproven evolutionist paradigm. The actual dates given, as well as the actual arrangement of supposed evolutionary ancestors and descendants, have no actual, independent relevance. The whole structure is based on circular reasoning.

Bravo for your amazing ability to wave away a century of biology, geology, paleontology, physics and chemistry to name a few of the sciences involved in determining that progression of skulls.

How you can do that *poof* just like that is really incredible. Oh sure, you threw in your creationist "circular reasoning" talking point without any sort of nod to the facts behind the chart. Or, for that matter, any sort of explanation why those non H. sapiens skulls exist at all.

I figure you have a few options to answer that:

1. They're all fakes and scams
2. They're all failed "designs" of the Designer
3. They all still exist somewhere, we just haven't found them yet.
4. Satan placed them in the strata to deceive and confuse the less faithful
5. They are exactly what the chart says they are, but my particular brand of Christianity does not allow me to accept that.

I'm curious - which one?

[[Bravo for your amazing ability to wave away a century of biology, geology, paleontology, physics and chemistry to name a few of the sciences involved in determining that progression of skulls.]]

Bravo- you’ve managed to IGNORE the myriad refutations of that chart here on FR for the past few years- You’ve managed to IGNORE the countless articles and evidences which have debunked the claims many times, and you’ve managed to impose yet another silly set of demands on Creationists by claiming:

[[1. They’re all fakes and scams
2. They’re all failed “designs” of the Designer
3. They all still exist somewhere, we just haven’t found them yet.
4. Satan placed them in the strata to deceive and confuse the less faithful
5. They are exactly what the chart says they are, but my particular brand of Christianity does not allow me to accept that.]]

Bzzzzt- Wrong! We don’t have to do any such thing- ALL we have to do is point to the very science which itself REFUTES the wild claims of some imaginitive scientists who can’t invision anythign but naturalism, and hwo’s imaginations run wild and ignore hte evidences agaisnt hteir claims.

While some were indeed fakes i nthe past, most are ligit- however they fall squarely into two distinct camps- fully human, or fully ape. There is NOTHING in either creation science or ID that claims there aren’t genetic variations WITHIN the kinds, and there certainly is nothign statign that various features can differ greatly due to disease, malnutrition etc. There is NO need to claim any one of your silly points.