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To: Zakeet
How long will conservatives who hold to the conservative platform cling to the liberal run, liberal owned and neo lib GOP refuse to understand that the GOP and RNC are like cancer in the body of conservatism. The only hope we conservatives have is to start a new conservative party for conservatives only that will run only true conservatives for any and all political offices. Liberals need not apply.
Or just try and pretend that the GOP can be cleaned up. That is a joke and historically impossible. The disease is too deep and the rino politicians to entrenched to ever clean up the neo lib GOP which is much closer to the Marxist run democrat party than to conservatives in their corrupted structure now.
11 posted on 01/24/2009 4:42:01 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: kindred

I tell you right off the bat, there are so many Bush Bashing liberals on thread this morning!

Come and get me, Im ready!

bULLFROG


13 posted on 01/24/2009 4:48:08 AM PST by Bullfrogg
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To: kindred
The only hope we conservatives have is to start a new conservative party for conservatives only that will run only true conservatives for any and all political offices

New York has had a conservative party for decades. Notice how successful they have been at electing people(not). What makes anyone think another national conservative party would go anywhere when the Constitution Party holds its conventions in phone booths? (Don't even talk about the Libretardians).

30 posted on 01/24/2009 5:18:32 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kindred

Political parties exist for the purpose of getting in power and handing out appointive jobs to thousands of their hacks, so there is no incentive for a party to shrink govt. Also, the more Federal largesse is available, the greater the ability of incumbents to buy another term. We desperately need term limits, so nobody can aspire to a career in “public service.” Not to mention enforcing the 10th Amendment, but that is impossible at present.


41 posted on 01/24/2009 5:59:02 AM PST by hellbender
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To: kindred
The only hope we conservatives have is to start a new conservative party for conservatives only that will run only true conservatives for any and all political offices.

The first problem is defining conservative. The term has no meaning anymore.

Both freetraders and protectionists claim to be conservative. Both pro-abortion and pro-life people claim to be conservative. Both interventionists internationally and isolationists claim to be conservative. People on both sides of the debate over homosexual marriage claim to be conservative. The "conservatives" spent more money faster than any other entity in the history of the world from 2000-2006.

Reagan assembled a coalition of libertarians, fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. Through his political genius, he also made being a Republican "cool," attracting the politically unaligned. These are not natural bedfellows, and now everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else claiming that to make things work, we have to start out by kicking one of the other groups out.

The big push now is to get rid of the pro-lifers and the social conservatives. That's roughly 1/3rd of the electorate.

Me? My business is going well and I'm sitting out for a while on politics. Life's good and I spent nearly twenty years at the local level in Republican politics trying to get these bozos to play nice. I can't be of any benefit anymore, and I'm not going to get an ulcer trying to get people to get along when they'd rather lose and kick everyone else out of the room.

77 posted on 01/24/2009 12:27:34 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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