Posted on 01/24/2009 4:19:53 PM PST by LibWhacker
Is warfare ever justified?
Were slaveowners really innocent people, or were they engaged in a lifelong practice of kidnapping, forced labor and other inevitable atrocities?
You didn’t answer my question. If you were being held as a slave, would you be justified in resisting the oppression, even killing your owners? If not, on what basis do you justify American revolution against the British, or for that matter any war? Would Jews in 1940s Europe have been justified in killing SS men?
If you yourself would be justified in fighting back against your enslavers, on what basis do you deny that right to others?
“s Koresh was a nutjob but since when do we kill kids and women because there is a nutjob in the building -”
Why didn’t they just walk out of the building and surrender to police?
So read the account I posted of the victims - how do you justify their murder? They did not enslave Brown.
Pretty old post to be pulling up. You bored today or looking for a fight?
I didn’t pull it up. Those people would be alive if they had walked out.
Except that's not what happened. The ATF fired first and admitted so at Trial.
Koresh was perfectly within his legal rights to kill those agents and in fact not a single Davidian was ever convicted of anything having to do with their deaths.
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Dang I didn’t even know she was murdered, and thought it just happened. WOW
No, I don't remember that, and neither do you. Because it didn't happen that way.
No actually Janet Reno could have easily picked up Koresh days before while he was in town. There was no need for Waco to ever happen.
Perfect example of how the drunk Janet Reno couldn’t even shoot her way out of paper bag. A lot of innocent lives were lost completely due to the incompetence of the US government. They could have waited this out.
The adults should have chosen to walk out. It’s not like they could have lasted forever. The chances of a massacre in the open was extremely slim considering the press coverage.
Koresh wanted them to die and die they did.
The point is they should have walked out or he should have walked them out. The women and kids would still be alive today. Instead, it’s like they were waiting to die because there wasn’t going to be any good outcomes if they stayed there. He was Jim Jones Jr.
They aren’t coming for me. They never have.
Times they be a changing.
Be safe.
What a bunch of crap.
The FBI's negotiator is on tape telling Koresh's attorney that they should "buy some fire insurance" days before they torched the BDs compound.
They played Nancy Sinatra's "Boots are Walking" song at full blast during all hours of the night, which has the key line,
"You keep thinking that you'll never get burned. Well, I just got me a brand new box of matches, and what I got you ain't got time to learn. These boots are made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. One of these days these boots will walk all over you."
They knew the BDs were using kerosene lamps to light the place, because they shut the electricity off for weeks, then they used incendiary rounds on the compound.
There's no mystery as to who set the fire, or who the real murderers are.
How would Koresh have gotten the death penalty? He was shot by agents at the front of the compound while the agents who were killed were attacking the back of the compound. All surviving BDs who were charged with murder were acquitted.
Janet Reno was not in charge at the beginning of the incident.
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