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Recycling 'could be adding to global warming'
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | Jan. 28, 2009 | Louise Gray and Gordon Rayner

Posted on 01/28/2009 6:24:51 AM PST by PROCON

Peter Jones suggested that an "urgent" review of Labour's policy on recycling was needed to make sure the collection, transportation and processing of recyclable material was not causing a net increase in greenhouse gases.

Mr Jones, a former director of the waste firm Biffa and now an adviser to environment ministers and the London Mayor, Boris Johnson, also dismissed kerbside recycling collections in many areas as "stupid" because they mixed together different materials, rendering them useless for recycling.

He suggested that much of the country's waste should simply be burnt to generate electricity.

"It might be that the global warming impact of putting material through an incinerator five miles down the road is actually less than recycling it 3,000 miles away," he said.

"We've got to urgently get a grip on how this material is flowing through the system; whether we're actually adding to or reducing the overall impact in terms of global warming potential in this process."

Mr Jones's outspoken comments come amid increasing controversy over household recycling.

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KEYWORDS: agw; globalwarming
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You just can't make this stuff up!!
1 posted on 01/28/2009 6:24:52 AM PST by PROCON
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

LOL Ping!


2 posted on 01/28/2009 6:25:20 AM PST by PROCON (I mourn for America.)
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To: PROCON
Dog, meet tail.

Sic'em!

3 posted on 01/28/2009 6:25:57 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: PROCON; ErnBatavia

I love it.


4 posted on 01/28/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: PROCON

Good, I’ll stop recycling now. Never liked doing it anyway.


5 posted on 01/28/2009 6:29:52 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: PROCON

Urgently!


6 posted on 01/28/2009 6:29:55 AM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: PROCON; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Fiddlstix; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 01/28/2009 6:30:51 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaNation: Tax cheat sworn in as Treasury Secretary --- you can't make this stuff up !!!)
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To: PROCON

LOL...everything the enviro nutters do seems to back-fire!!


8 posted on 01/28/2009 6:31:03 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: PROCON

Actually recycling is a business that should be increased and could create long term jobs and reduce costs. I have been pitching recycling for the last 15 years, from carpet to building materials, glass, plastic, etc.

Waste carpet alone is a huge waste generator, and they have the technology to pelletize the nylon to be reused again. I once tried hard to raise some venture capital for this, but some of the principals involved were not capable of running the business and it failed.

If we had adequate recycling facilities, and separate garbage containers, , we would all be better off. Trash companies need to have multiple containers, particularly for glass, paper, and plastic. Look at all the glass and plastic that gets thrown away with other trash in the City of New Orleans alone. It is amazing.

We waste so much in America


9 posted on 01/28/2009 6:31:56 AM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: ritewingwarrior

I got it, how about a ban on carpets? Hey, we don’t need them anyway, they get dirty, probably are awful for the internal envoronment of a home. If they were banned, think of the money we could save and we wouldn’t have to build carpet recycle units. I hate it when I make sense.


10 posted on 01/28/2009 6:37:27 AM PST by DHC-2
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To: PROCON

Recycling ‘could be adding to global warming’

Dear Clark,
Global Warming is the gift that keeps on giving!!!

Merry X-mas,
Cousin Eddie


11 posted on 01/28/2009 6:40:02 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: ritewingwarrior

“We waste so much in America.”

Not all of us. I’ve been a major recycler and under-consumer all of my life. I’d put my life up against ANY ‘Greenwit’ out there and win, hands down. I know many others that would, too. :)

However, you’re right. As a WHOLE, America is a very wasteful country.

But, it’s up to we CAPITALISTS to make a buck off of it. IMHO, the ‘Greenwits’ have always approached this from the wrong angle. Instead of ‘guilting’ people into it, show them the benefits of how they can save MONEY via recycling, buying second-hand, buying in bulk for less packaging, cashing in scrap metal, buying recycled building items, etc.

They never could see the forest for the trees. ;)


12 posted on 01/28/2009 6:45:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: steelyourfaith

We quit regular (weekly pickup) recycling when the trash service raised the rate to $7/month. Seems like I can buy a lot of trash bags for $7/month. Still save some things to take to centers, but it is a fraction of what I used to put out.


13 posted on 01/28/2009 6:52:20 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I remember when we were kids you could take your pop bottles back to the store and get a nickle apiece for them. You never saw bottles laying around. Make it worth someone’s time and they will recycle.


14 posted on 01/28/2009 7:01:28 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: PROCON
Nancy Piglosi (Dem, Utropia) has the solution - kill people.

Without people there is no need to manufacture anything; no need to plant or harvest crops or forests, no need to protect, nurture or harvest animals, no need to build or maintain shelters and infrastructure, no need to mine minerals or drill for petroleum, no need for transportation systems and equipment, no need for an energy and power industry.

The earth can become pristine once more.

15 posted on 01/28/2009 7:05:39 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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To: PROCON

Who knew, I’ve been “green” all along.


16 posted on 01/28/2009 7:07:43 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: McGavin999
I remember when we were kids you could take your pop bottles back to the store and get a nickle apiece for them.

Back when beer cans were made of steel they littered the roadsides.
At night they were like little metal reflectors strewn along the edges of highways.

When manufacturers turned to recyclable aluminum the beer can littering stopped overnight.

But in states without bottle deposits you still see discarded glass beer bottles all over the place.

17 posted on 01/28/2009 7:11:47 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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To: PROCON

Eureka Ca just instituted mandatory curbside garbage pickup. No hauling your own to the dump. They start mandatory recycling in July. The home owner will have 3 carts to put out. This is a move to cut down on trash going to landfills as mandated by the state...


18 posted on 01/28/2009 7:42:07 AM PST by tubebender (Your Tag Line offends me...)
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To: McGavin999

Exactly. We have a small farm. Behind the machine shed is a pile of scrap metal. We cash that in 2x a year. Brings a pretty penny. :)

When my kids were small, I bought them a ‘can crusher’ and let them crush and collect pop cans, beer cans, etc. They could keep the cash from that. It got kind of comical as they’d follow around their Uncles waiting to pounce on the beer cans the minute they finished, LOL!

Compost pile. Burn barrel....amazingly still allowed out here in the sticks. Chickens who eat anything...we have very little trash that leaves the place.

We buy nearly everything save for undies, socks & shoes on the second hand market. All of our furniture is ‘antique,’ LOL! I have a very short commute to work, and Husband commutes from the bedroom to his home office each morning. ;)

So, when the ‘Greenies’ preach to me, my first reaction has always been, ‘walk a mile in my shoes.’ I tune them out. :)


19 posted on 01/28/2009 7:43:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ritewingwarrior
Waste carpet alone is a huge waste generator, and they have the technology to pelletize the nylon to be reused again.

It just dawned on me when I read your post, that I think this material may be in use at our local park. There is some kind of new material that's been put under the swings that looks like tiny ground up carpet pieces. It would be a soft landing for the kids, if they should fall. Kind of neat!

20 posted on 01/28/2009 7:44:53 AM PST by Jessarah
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