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Having More Than Two Children Is 'Irresponsible' Warns Government Advisor
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | February 1, 2009

Posted on 02/01/2009 10:18:27 AM PST by Steelfish

Having more than two children is 'irresponsible' warns Government advisor By DANIEL MARTIN and SIMON CALDWELL 01st February 2009

The birth rate in Britain is now at its highest for 30 years

Couples who have more than two children are putting an 'irresponsible' burden on the environment, the Government's leading green advisor has warned.

Jonathon Porritt called on ministers to divert money away from curing illnesses towards contraception and abortion services to limit the country's population and help in the fight against global warming.

And he criticised fellow green campaigners for dodging the issue of population growth and its effect on the environment because it is too 'controversial'.

It came as Catholic bishops in England and Wales lambasted environmentalism as an ideology every bit as dangerous as communism.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; birthrate; ecowackos; envirowhackos; moonbats; moralabsolutes; onechildpolicy; socialism

1 posted on 02/01/2009 10:18:27 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

The religion continues. The Misanthropic environmentalism sees no limits to the oppression it can enact in the name of the mythic and great “Environment”.


2 posted on 02/01/2009 10:21:22 AM PST by Maelstorm (When the people find that they can vote themselves money,that will herald the end of the republic-BF)
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To: Steelfish

This is what happens when you have socialized healthcare. The government has to ration costs and care, so it must attach an economic value to each and every human life. Less human life means less costs to the government. Granny and Grampa may be SOL if they want an expensive operation late in life because their economic utility to the state is much lower than a younger, healther citizen.

This is a brave new world.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 10:22:36 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Steelfish

IMHO. These people are paving the way for someone to over run them. If they do not keep a steady growth rate then they will be over run by people who do not hold their beliefs.

Do they believe that when they are the minority that the Islamofacists will take their opinion into consideration? I don’t think so.

They are going to be their own undoing.


4 posted on 02/01/2009 10:23:32 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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To: Steelfish

This has nothing to do with the environment. It’s another method to advance socialism.


5 posted on 02/01/2009 10:23:55 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Steelfish

The birth rate may appear to be high in Britain. It not due to British Anglo-Saxon births, they are on the decline, it is because of immigrant Muslim births.


6 posted on 02/01/2009 10:24:24 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Steelfish
"divert money away from curing illnesses towards contraception and abortion"

Environmentalism is Totalitarianism.

7 posted on 02/01/2009 10:24:59 AM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: Steelfish

Yup, let the advanced civilizations stop reproductions so that we can let the 6th century ones (you can guess) keep reproducing.

Gads, what happened to the UK? Brits, kick those idiots out of government and your schools. Far out. (Yes, we need to do the same here, but at least we’ve still got our guns.....heh.)


8 posted on 02/01/2009 10:25:11 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Steelfish

Liberal Socialism is molting. Fully formed Communism will soon to emerge from the husk.


9 posted on 02/01/2009 10:27:53 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Steelfish

Some stats on this I’ve heard.

The population of Western Europe is declining.

In as little as 30 years French will be outnumbered by immigrants.

Without immigrants the population of America would be declining.

Russia’s population is in severe decline.

The radical muslims are outbreeding us.


10 posted on 02/01/2009 10:29:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Steelfish

Why not make it one and throw in free Chinese language lessons?


11 posted on 02/01/2009 10:30:09 AM PST by JPG
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To: Steelfish
If he honestly believes that then why doesn't he kill himself to “relieve” the earth of the burden he poses? Just like the Obama admin...it's always someone else needs to change, but that doesn't apply the the self styled elites. There's a word for that...hypocrite.
12 posted on 02/01/2009 10:31:04 AM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Steelfish

Some folks think those of us that advocate there exists an International Socialist movement behind the modern American Democrat movement, thus “Socialist/Democrats” are Conspiracy Nuts.

Think about this issue of limited child birth, and Environmentalism. It’s International, and this particular article reflects the attitude from a European source of Socialist ideology. The UK.

I haven’t a doubt the war of 1812 wasn’t the end of the matter.


13 posted on 02/01/2009 10:31:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Steelfish

How’s Labour doing and how soon can they be gotten rid of?


14 posted on 02/01/2009 10:34:27 AM PST by dr_who
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To: Da Coyote
Gads, what happened to the UK?

Swirling in the toilet, as is Europe. From the comments on that article, it looks like over half the posters there agree with the writer.

15 posted on 02/01/2009 10:37:12 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Steelfish
environmentalism as an ideology every bit as dangerous as communism.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Environmentalism **is** communism.

Scratch an environmentalist and under his thin skin is a communist.

It is Marxism that drives everything an environmentalist says and does.

Corralory: All Marxists/Communists lie.

16 posted on 02/01/2009 10:38:31 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Steelfish
Government adviser plays the Guilt Trip card.
17 posted on 02/01/2009 10:42:05 AM PST by TYVets
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Seriously, it’s like Britain is taking the tactics that the Nazi party was scheming up in the 30s and now is openly trying to apply them and the most bizarre part is THEY DON’T EVEN REALIZE IT!!!!

I honestly think these whack jobs think they are proposing the right thing all the while having no idea it is so backwards that a reasonable person would just shake their head and walk away knowing that the person presenting these ideas is just simply lost...

Very very sad times.


18 posted on 02/01/2009 10:59:58 AM PST by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: Dustbunny

I was just remembering the same thing. If anything, they need MORE than two children per family so that they CAN have a future.

Be fruitful and multiply. The very first commandment.


19 posted on 02/01/2009 11:01:17 AM PST by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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To: Steelfish

I have five kids, so, I’m wondering, can I take out three environmentalists to balance the equation? Wouldn’t want to hurt the earth, ya know.


20 posted on 02/01/2009 11:03:16 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Steelfish

England is already running backwards with it’s population base, and this guy suggests the honor system to the only people inside his nation that will listen to it, those who are the best members of their society.

Yes, of course, by all means, implement a plan where those who don’t produce out procreate at a ratio of four or five to one.

Brave new world indeed...

The Western nations are being managed into oblivion by their own fifth columnists.


21 posted on 02/01/2009 11:08:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: Steelfish

ONLY having two children would be replacing you and your spouse for the next generation. having less is reducing population, more increasing. this is fairly simple.

if your goal is to minimize the US, then you want Americans to have 0-2 kids.

which has been very successful against caucasian America since the 60s. (families use to have 3-6 kids, now 1or 2 is the norm)


22 posted on 02/01/2009 11:44:16 AM PST by sten
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To: phatus maximus
"...it’s like Britain is taking the tactics that the Nazi party was scheming up in the 30s and now is openly trying to apply them and the most bizarre part is ..."

...as insane as the Nazi's were, they at least were for increasing their own people and not the national suicide the Green Brits are implementing...

THAT'S the most bizarre part.
23 posted on 02/01/2009 11:54:16 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Steelfish; Maelstrom
The anti-human-race faction evidently hasn't kept up with the evidence of demographic collapse, especially in Europe and the Anglosphere. Click this link for a real eye-opener on Demographic Winter.

Anti-population fascists. What's this guy's slogan? "Britons out of Britain"?

24 posted on 02/01/2009 12:04:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: RedMonqey

good point...

The religion of Gaia is alive and well in many people’s hearts.

Amazing...


25 posted on 02/01/2009 2:07:24 PM PST by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: phatus maximus

“The religion of Gaia is alive and well in many people’s hearts.”

Funny you added that. The Nazi’s were also “green” and favored “animal right”


26 posted on 02/01/2009 9:19:53 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: wintertime

And lying would prove to be their Achilles heel. Exposing them is like stripping them of their fur coats in Antarctic blizzards.


27 posted on 10/11/2009 1:15:17 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

We must find a way to expose them.


28 posted on 10/11/2009 6:13:13 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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