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Stimulus is Too Heavy on Spending, Says Growing Number of Senators
FOx News ^ | Feb. 1, 2009 | FoxNews

Posted on 02/01/2009 12:38:21 PM PST by FocusNexus

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To: DGHoodini
Without bees, and finding a way to protect them, our grocery store shelves are going to shrink dramatically, in both amounts and varieties of foodstuffs. and i’m not just talking about sweet stuffs.

We're doomed; and only the government can save us !

41 posted on 02/01/2009 3:26:16 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: freekitty
"I hope they are for real. We just can’t afford to keep giving out money with no return for the taxpayer."

There is no need for any spending at all. Tax reductions/eliminations are all that is needed so that business can survive and thrive. They are who makes jobs and keeps the economy running.

Government has to cut spending and pay down debt just like everyone else does in times like this. That is the best and quickest way to economic recovery, and what will limit the duration of this recession, and put us back into steady economic growth.

We MUST reduce our national debt and allow that bad credit to pass through the system. All the government is doing with this ridiculous spending and trying to sustain the artificial housing bubble by continuing the very thing that got us into this mess in the first place, is like using gasoline to put out a fire.

We can't afford to spend anymore, we were already at 10 trillion nation dept, 10% of GDP BEFORE this "bailout" idiocy began. That spending has increased our national debt by 2.5 trillion (I believe its much more) and 13% of GDP, (which I believe is also much more, because our real GDP has and is decreasing from the old number used to determine that 13% figure).

Another trillion is only going to push those numbers higher, and we may already be far beyond the point of no return.

This nation is broke, the government has no money to spend, and we can't borrow anymore. If we do, our credit rating will be downgraded, national debt will increase drastically just from the interest alone.

Countries already holding our debt via large amounts of treasuy notes will not buy anymore anyways, so Obama CAN'T borrow more money.
Obama will have no other way to pay for all those social programs like social security, welfare, medicaid, Gov. payrolls etc. but by printing trillions in new money, which will have drastic consequences.

Our dollar will plummet with no end in sight, we could end up like Zimbabwe with $1,000,000. notes barely enough to buy a pack of gum.

42 posted on 02/01/2009 3:31:20 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: FocusNexus; All

I wonder how Bob the BO’s lawyer will answer to this?

PHONE: 202.628.6600

Robert (Bob) Bauer is currently counsel to Obama for America and the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees, and has served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000).

607 Fourteenth Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20005-2003

PHONE: 202.628.6600 FAX: 202.434.1690


43 posted on 02/01/2009 3:41:48 PM PST by FreeManN (Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi)
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To: DGHoodini
"Without bees, and finding a way to protect them, our grocery store shelves are going to shrink dramatically, in both amounts and varieties of foodstuffs. and i’m not just talking about sweet stuffs. Bees are a critical link in the pollination and the bounty of our crops, and that means more than honey comb cereal, it means al kinds of fruit and vegetables as well. It would be a bad mistake to cut the money for the bees, IMO."

Oh come on. That's highly exaggerated eviro-nutso stuff. Sure, SOME reduction of pollination will occur, but bee's aren't the only things that pollinate. there's the wind, other insects, birds. in fact most grain crops are pollinated by the wind, not bee's, so you can cross those off the list the enviro-nutso's publish.

Plus, if worse comes to worst, we can always round up a bunch of illegal aliens, give them all swiffer dusters, and have them walk through crop fields pollinating crops by hand.

44 posted on 02/01/2009 3:42:02 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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45 posted on 02/01/2009 3:47:01 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: DGHoodini

“It means that if all the hives in a farm get wiped out, new hives can be brought in to pollonate the crops, and further research will be done to protect the present hives. There *are* kinds of bees that are resistant to what’s killing off the average US bees, and there are “vaccines” that can kill the “mites” that are part of the problem.”

OK. You’ve convinced me — I did read about some disease that has been killing off a lot of bees. As I said, I am all for bees, they are important for pollination, and I like bee products too.

So, let’s leave the bee insurance in, take out everything else and start over.


46 posted on 02/01/2009 4:51:24 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Check out Glenn Beck’s “Inconvenient Debt” video — it supports your concers and conclusion — it’s about how much money the Fed has been printing historically to now.

http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/index.html


47 posted on 02/01/2009 4:57:55 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: Red Boots

Don’t *bee* silly. :o)

Be a good Shepard.

Protecting the harvests is not being an eco-nut.


48 posted on 02/01/2009 7:33:25 PM PST by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: DGHoodini
How is it that the only way that this can be done is for the government to collect money from someone else and give it to the studiers ?

If this is such a dire need, why aren't the beekeepers funding it themselves ? If this is such a dire need, why are the studies not funded until 2010 ? If this is such a dire need, won't agriculture have collapsed by then ?

49 posted on 02/02/2009 4:28:49 PM PST by Red Boots
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