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H.R. 45 "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act")
NSSF ^ | 02/02/09 | staff

Posted on 02/02/2009 10:31:00 PM PST by epow

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To: epow
Related legislation should be proposed. Because reckless use of writing instruments has led to incalcuable loss of innocent life (Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, etc.), the following sould be enacted as soon as possible:

1) All assault writing instruments (printing presses, word processors, laser printers, photocopiers, etc.) shall be forbidden to minors and convicted liberals.

2) Assault writing instruments shall be restricted from import, except for military and police use.

3) Memory devices capable of holding more than 10 chapters shall be banned.

4) Sales of all writing instruments shall be registered and a background check conducted on buyers.

5) Any conviction of libel or slander involving the use of an electronic writing instrument shall result in enhanced penalties up to double the original sentence.

I'm sure there are more, but it is critical for the safety of our children that the rights guaranteed by the 1st Amendment be curtailed, controlled and restricted by our loving, nurturing government immediately!

41 posted on 02/03/2009 10:47:37 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: epow; Squantos; hiredhand; NFHale
...pay a fee to the federal government

bwaaaaahahahaha...

God GAVE me Rights...no purchase necessary...

BBBBWWWAAAHAHAHAHAH...

42 posted on 02/03/2009 11:38:12 AM PST by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: RC one

Just two words for me. Molon Labe.


43 posted on 02/03/2009 1:16:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’ll work too.


44 posted on 02/03/2009 1:32:04 PM PST by RC one
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To: XenaLee
I'm pretty sure, at this point, that convicted felons/criminals will be treated better by this administration than will law-abiding conservatives.

To quote from the Bible where these Evil Democrats and their legal cronies are concerned "Cursed are those who acquit the guilty and punish the innocent"

45 posted on 02/03/2009 2:05:03 PM PST by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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To: Kitanis
Keep track of each “Republican” who votes for H.R. 45.. and then work to inform others that he did trade away the rights.

Oh, we'll definitely keep track of them. They'll eventually pay Mornay's Wages (politically or otherwise).

46 posted on 02/03/2009 2:31:19 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: JDoutrider

bttt


47 posted on 02/03/2009 3:54:42 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Kitanis
I am not advocating riots. I am saying that riots are inevitable. The are inevitable and they will not be started by conservatives. Look at what is happening in Europe. The riots will be started by dissatisfied entitlement recipients.

However, as Rahm Emanuel is so fond of saying, every crises is an opportunity which should not be ignored. We need to be better prepared to cash in on the riots than Obama and his disciples.

48 posted on 02/03/2009 4:04:08 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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State bureaucracy causing problems for gun owners
02/03/2009, 10:33 am

By Pete Nickeas
The Daily Journal Springfield Bureau
217-525-8207

SPRINGFIELD — Illinois gun owners could fall prey to a state bureaucracy that fails to process firearm owner’s identification cards promptly.

The state’s tardiness leaves some otherwise law-abiding firearm owners vulnerable to criminal charges because FOID cards often expire while the state police are still processing renewals.

Criminal charges can be filed against any resident who possesses a gun but does not have a valid FOID card.

The Illinois State Police agency is required by law to process FOID applications within 30 days. But the process is taking up to 60 business days, according to agency spokesman Lt. Scott Compton.

“Gun owners can’t go shooting, can’t go hunting, can’t buy ammo, and can’t legally own a gun. They’re caught in a problem with the state police not complying with their own law,” said Richard Pearson of Chatsworth, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association.

Compton attributed the delay to a deluge of 280,000 applications last year, well above the 225,000 the state averages and the most since 1968. More than 88,500 came in the last three months alone. One day in December 2008 saw about 2,400 applications, more than double the state’s average for that date.

Though an additional three staff members have been assigned to handle applications, they haven’t completed training, Compton said.

Just what is causing the sudden influx of FOID applications is an open question. Some gun shop owners contend after the November 2008 election of President Barack Obama, more people sought to buy guns because they feared future restrictions on firearm sales.

Under certain scenarios an otherwise law-abiding gun owner without a valid FOID card could be charged with a felony punishable by up to three years in prison, said Todd Vandermyde, a Springfield lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

Even people who keep guns locked away in their homes while they await their FOID renewal are in technical violation and can be charged with a misdemeanor.

This leaves some to question the state’s gun-purchasing policies.

Roger Skartveit, owner of Bazooka’s Gun Shop in Ottawa, favors moving to a system similar to Arizona’s, where driver’s licenses are used as identification for gun buyers.

“If you have any reason you couldn’t purchase it, it goes on your record. So when they swipe your card, you either get an approval or a denial immediately,” Skartveit said.

This “instant-check” system takes about 30 minutes, he said.

In addition to the record number of card applicants in 2008, this time of the year is particularly busy for FOID applicants, said Tim McGrath, owner of Guns and Gadgets in Peotone.

“In September and October, guys get ready to get in the field to go hunting. Then they see their card is going to expire, and have to get it taken care of before it does,” McGrath said.

Vandermyde said he believes the delays are due to the state’s fiscal woes.

“There’s no money out there to process these cards. It is like everything else in state government, the governor has screwed things up,” he said.

Pearson said he isn’t sure if delays by the state police were intentional, but said he wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.

“If the state doesn’t agree with your right, they simply close off the faucet. We’ve seen this in other cases. You can’t get motorcycle licenses because they don’t offer the courses. You can’t hunt because they don’t offer hunter’s safety courses,” he said.

McGrath said gun owners shouldn’t be penalized because the state can’t adhere to its own law — but owners need to take a measure of responsibility, too.

“If you’re responsible enough to own a firearm, you’re responsible enough to get the application,” McGrath said. “You make sure not to wait until the day you’re going hunting.”

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49 posted on 02/03/2009 8:41:29 PM PST by KeyLargo
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What firearms? I don’t own any firearms! Too expensive!!!


50 posted on 02/03/2009 9:07:30 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: epow
Two hundred-plus years of admistrations turning over power to the opposition without the spilling of blood. Pretty neat trick. And worthy of acclaim, however, what has made this possible has been an oath: to protect and defend the Constitution. Without that- absent that, the reins of power would not transfer so peacefully.

The flagrant disregard of the 2nd ammendment constitutes a breech of contract by any party who willfully engages in it. That means, (if it had to be defined), the States are no longer bound by the Union contract. (Not sure about you, but unions are so 'yesterday').

The Tenth ammendment suggests that notwithstanding, the people and the states reserve the rest of the rights not defined. Which means, we're free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, free at last.

Obama and his homies thought they were about to usher in their socialist utopia, but, with legislation such as this, they'll rip apart the fabric that holds this country together and cause a revolt to all things Federal such that they'd never, in their wildest dreams, have imagined. Good for them. It already stunk on ice- it couldn't find the constitution like it couldn't find it's ass with both hands.

Not a condemnation of our founders but those politicians and justices who chose not to follow their advice, and whose 'hands' are still groping. I just wish I lived in a state where common-sense rights were respected.

My state is about to declare bankruptcy unless the unFed bails them out. Bankruptcy becomes them, because their ideas are 'bankrupt'. If this state goes down, it'll go down in style (California).

Who'd-a-thunk it? The Tech Bubble popped, people lost money. The Housing Bubble popped, people lost money. And now, the Federal Government Bubble shall pop? And the answer is: to Print Mo Money? My ass. The answer obvious to anyone smarter than a 'fifth grader' is to let it pop, followed by the 'downsizing' that has been overdue about 70 years.

This 're-sized' Fed is going to have fun keeping track of gun owners and purchasers among the myriad other 'duties' it may deem essential to maintaining the Union. Collapse you SOBs. The smaller you get, the greater my freedoms. I could get a lot nastier with this group of constitutional nullifying sh*tbags, but I won't. Lucky for them.

When the train leaves the track, it's a train wreck. When a country leaves the track, it's still a train wreck. All Aboard!

51 posted on 02/05/2009 10:09:42 PM PST by budwiesest (Pay my mortgage and buy me some gas.)
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When a country leaves the track, it's still a train wreck. All Aboard!

AFAIC the USA train jumped the track on 1/20/09.

I don't profess any loyalty to the US government as long as that POS is sitting behind the Oval Office desk. I will remain loyal to the USA as a nation, but not to a government whose chief executive is a man who I believe is a foreign born, Constitutionally ineligible president.

52 posted on 02/06/2009 8:27:35 AM PST by epow (If God is your co-pilot, swap seats.)
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I will remain loyal to the USA as a nation, but not to a government whose chief executive is a man who I believe is a foreign born, Constitutionally ineligible president.

His birth and what that means to our constitution as the basis for continued good-governance is paramount. If he can't produce a legitmate certifcate, we can produce a 'good' constitution which trumps any "change" or "hope" his supporters might embrace.

My thought is that a 'natural' American will include our most basic of ideals in the transition from one administration to the other. By doing so, violent 'change' is avoided. Otherwise, it will become a necessity. That's all.

53 posted on 02/07/2009 5:27:55 PM PST by budwiesest (Tax cheats line-up to try that new Chicago Style, very thin-crust pizza.)
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