Posted on 02/04/2009 11:59:01 AM PST by wagglebee
"He wants to not only receive Holy Communion from a bishop but from the papal representative. I think that's what his point was. Get it in Time magazine, so people read it and say to themselves, 'He must be in good standing'."
Exactly. So very, very happy to hear this! And yes it should begin immediately!
BTTT!
The Pope just spoke through Archbishop Burke.
Are the CINOs listening? I doubt it, but I pray that they do.
Then they need to be.
Two greatest evils in the world right now are Islam and abortion, and oBUMa supports both of them.
On sunday mornings I see a good number of cars in the Church parking lot and in front of the Church with oBUMa and Lieden bumper stickers. not hard to figure out which ones to exclude from that evidence.
Please come back and help us.
When the pro-abortion bishops start refusing communion to their pro-abortion politician friends, let us know.
“Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or the declaration of a penalty as well as others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to communion.” Each word is significant.
"Obstinately" means they've been told beforehand and they do it anyway.
"Persist" means they've done it repeatedly.
"Manifest" means obvious, open, public.
"Grave sin" means matters of serious moral depravity --- like abortion ands infanticide --- and, incidentally, deliberately carrying out acts of war which intentionally destroy "cities or extensive geographical areas together with their inhabitants"--- all of which the church calls "abominable crimes."
Voting for Obama would not be such a violation, because it has never been defined by the Church as a sin; because a person might have done so without actually supporting abortion per se, and because it is not "manifest" --- that is, a secret ballot is not a public scandal.
Every person has the duty to refrain from Communion if they are conscious of ANY grave sin, --- any grave sin, even one which is quite private and secret.
Canon 915 specifically addresses the duty of the Bishop or priest (or, I would say, even a layperson distributing Communion), to refuse Communion to public unrepentant sinners. An example would be some of those flamboyant gay protestors who sometimes turn up for Mass with the obvious ("manifest") aim of sacrilegious reception.
This explains things pretty well.
So what about those Catholics who vote for John Doe, politician? Shouldn’t the Church be hunting them down and booting them out as well?
Simply sinning is not enough to warrant excommunication. It has to be a notorious public sin. This is not because public sins are any worse than private sins. The purpose of excommunication is not punishment.
The purpose of excommunication is to maintain clarity in what the Church does and does not teach. A notorious public sinner is publicly dissenting from a moral teaching of the Church, which then obscures that teaching and potentially creates confusion among the faithful as to what is and is not moral. By excommunicating the person, the Church removes such confusion.
Pelosi and other liberals will distort and manipulate Church Law in exactly the same manner they distort the Constitution to meet their agenda. She, and they, will only be successful if we accept the distortions and the redefinitions. All we need to do to win is to control the language. Sin is sin, murder is murder, excommunication is excommunication.
There won't be another Grand Inquisition if that is what you are asking. The Church recognizes that all will stand before their Creator and be held to account for their "thoughts and their words, for what they have done and what they have failed to do". There will be no equivocation, no legalistic arguments and excuses. Aside from a few high profile examples to reinforce the message the Church will more clearly define the moral choices and allow each of us to choose or lose our salvation. The Church also recognizes that each soul is worth redemption and will work endlessly to bring salvation to even the most sinful.
It's not the Church's job to be "hunting them down" those who sin in private. Surely you understand that? Surely you understand what problems arise when the sin is unknown and not public knowledge?
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