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To: MindBender26
There was a notice published in a Hawaiian newspaper of his birth, but it could have been placed there using information on the certificate of live birth rather than the birth certificate. A photo of the notice has been circulated around FR and other websites.

Also, from this thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123806/posts):

“There is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID.”

The court found that Hawaiian law makes the COLB valid for all purposes with the exception of determining native Hawaiian heritage for certain state and federal benefits.

So there is no question that Obama is a citizen. But to determine Hawaiian heritage, the actual birth certificate must be produced.
117 posted on 02/05/2009 9:06:54 PM PST by CedarDave (Pray that during the next four years we don't lose the America we so love.)
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To: CedarDave
There was a notice published in a Hawaiian newspaper of his birth, but it could have been placed there using information on the certificate of live birth rather than the birth certificate.

The certificate of live birth *is* the birth certificate (Long form). The certification of live birth is also a birth certificate, aka the "Short form" or more descriptively, the "abstract form".

However, the announce would have been triggered by the filing of the original birth certificate, which does not necessarily have to be signed by a doctor and/or hospital registrar. They can be filed by the parent, or grandparent, with the mother's signature, and that of a "witness". That could have been Grandma Toot, and they could have filed it upon a return from Canda or Kenya, adjusting the birth date a bit to comport with the filing date. The purpose, to make little BHO Jr, a *citizen* of the United States, an important thing, even to leftists, in 1961, also the birth announcement would lend some "honor" to his mother, since he father apparently wasn't really enthused about marrying her and wasn't really in baby Barack's life, even before he left Hawaii for Boston and Harvard. Plus there is evidence, placing BHO and his mother in the Seattle area during his first year and then some, which brings it pretty much up to the point where BHO bugged out for Boston.

187 posted on 02/05/2009 10:09:16 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CedarDave
There was a notice published in a Hawaiian newspaper of his birth, but it could have been placed there using information on the certificate of live birth rather than the birth certificate. A photo of the notice has been circulated around FR and other websites.

http://axinar.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-birth-notice-from-honolulu-sunday.html

188 posted on 02/05/2009 10:10:42 PM PST by CedarDave (Pray that during the next four years we don't lose the America we so love.)
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To: CedarDave; El Gato
Significant correction as pointed out by El Gato:

There was a notice published in a Hawaiian newspaper of his birth, but it could have been placed there using information on the certificate certification of live birth rather than the birth certificate.

193 posted on 02/05/2009 10:16:53 PM PST by CedarDave (Pray that during the next four years we don't lose the America we so love.)
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