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To: ellery
Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

It's really, really difficult for me to work up any sympathy for cops who get their sh** scattered during these raids anymore.

NK raids should be reserved for only the most extraordinary circumstances, not routine pot busts.

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10 posted on 02/06/2009 11:15:15 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

The problem is, when a cop does unfortunately get killed in these raids, raid pushers use the fact as justification for why these raids are needed in the first place.

12 posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:21 AM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Lurker
Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

Are you kidding? If cops start dying, they will start using tanks. Oh wait, they already have them. Maybe F-16's will be the next step.

JBT ping
14 posted on 02/06/2009 11:26:22 AM PST by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty Was Pushed!)
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To: Lurker
Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done.

Things are beginning to happen. In the Mayor Cheye Calvo case, where a raid happened to someone in power, they are proposing a bill to make statistics on these raids more transparent (cops are trying to withhold that information for obvious reasons).

Research in Colorado is showing that cops are lying to get SWAT raid authority in at least 80% of the cases by claiming the houses affected have guns. Getting these statistics will be important in ending these dangerous and irresponsible raids.

Death by SWAT

In addition, we need to start charging these cops with animal cruelty when they kill people's pets.
17 posted on 02/06/2009 11:29:58 AM PST by microgood
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To: Lurker
"Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic 'no knock' raids absolutely nothing will be done."

The police, armed with increasingly lethal weapons, will endlessly escalate the arms race. Many SWAT teams are now equipped with up-armored tactical vehicles, essentially small tanks. These Rambo wanna be's saw too much embedded reporter film footage from Fallujah and want to do the same thing. The only difference is that these big gun, small d*ck LEOs didn't have the balls to try it as part of the 101st or 5 Mar Div.

18 posted on 02/06/2009 11:30:50 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Lurker

“Until cops start dying in large numbers during these idiotic ‘no knock’ raids absolutely nothing will be done.”

No, the more cops that die the more they’ll use these tactics and the more invasive the tactics will become. The response will be, “they’re killing us, we need bigger guns, more SWAT teams,” etc., etc. They’ll just ratchet up the war even more. The violence begets more violence and they use that to justify even more violence. It feeds off itself.


83 posted on 02/06/2009 4:24:53 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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