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Comedian Ben Stein Cancels Speech Over Evolution Controversy
AP/Fox News ^ | Feb 04th, '09 | AP Staff

Posted on 02/06/2009 6:21:07 PM PST by blueplum

BURLINGTON, Vt. — Comedian Ben Stein has withdrawn as the University of Vermont's commencement speaker because of complaints about his critical views on evolution in favor of intelligent design. UVM President Daniel Fogel said he chose Stein based on the warm response to a lecture he gave on campus last spring. Fogel said, however, he was deluged with e-mail messages from people offended by Stein's views of science. When told about the criticism, Stein — who was to be paid $7,500 — backed out of the May 17 commencement, Fogel said. "I did not ask him not to come," he said. "I was not going to let him be blind-sided by controversy." The former host of Comedy Central's "Win Ben Stein's Money" quiz show, Stein has drawn fire previously for criticizing evolutionary theory and speaking in favor of intelligent design. That view holds that life is too complex to have developed through evolution alone, implying that a higher power must have had a hand in creation. Stein told the Burlington Free Press that he was not "anti-science" as some critics have labeled him. "I am far more pro-science than the Darwinists," Stein wrote in an e-mail to the newspaper. "I want all scientific inquiry to happen not just what the ruling clique calls science." He said the controversy over him as commencement choice was "laughable" and "pathetic." Fogel said he was sorry that he did not anticipate the extent and intensity of the concerns expressed about Stein.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: benstein; commencement; evolution; intelligentdesign; stein; vermont
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To: alecqss

His saying that modern science was responsible for the Holocaust didn’t make him many friends.

“When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [i.e. biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you,”

“Crouch: That’s right.”

“Stein: …Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people.”

“Crouch: Good word, good word.”


21 posted on 02/06/2009 7:00:20 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: daniel1212

“Six Things in Expelled That Ben Stein Doesn’t Want You to Know...”

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=six-things-ben-stein-doesnt-want-you-to-know&sc=rss


22 posted on 02/06/2009 7:01:43 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: billorites

I don’t agree with his position either (at all) but people still get too defensive about it all.


23 posted on 02/06/2009 7:02:02 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: mort56

When the country is doing well, places like this are rioting. There just aren’t enough riots on college campii today. They struggle to find something to whine about.


24 posted on 02/06/2009 7:02:31 PM PST by Phillipian
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To: ClearCase_guy

The only thing that the left understands is emotion. They look to the personality first and to the intellect second if at all. Horowitz, Coulter, and Ben Stein are not really the cuddly type.


25 posted on 02/06/2009 7:05:14 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: daniel1212

He was wrong about the theory itself but he is spot on right about the suppression.


26 posted on 02/06/2009 7:09:56 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: blueplum
The liberal anti-God extremists who run the left and the universities have zero tolerance for anyone who assumes that we are "Endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights".

All of these leftists spend their lives attacking the assumption of the fact that we have a Creator. (as these God haters are speaking from the true fringe, they falsely label those who accept the Creator as the fringe.)

They want our rights to come from Big Government, and Mr. Stein is a threat to their secular religious fanaticism.

27 posted on 02/06/2009 7:11:26 PM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: blueplum

You know what’s great about Vermont... Not much... President Bush kicked VT to the curb, not visiting once during his 8 years in office.

VT... go pound some snow.


28 posted on 02/06/2009 7:12:14 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: daniel1212

“a conspiracy-theory rant masquerading as investigative inquiry”

You mean like like a Micheal Moore film?


29 posted on 02/06/2009 7:13:05 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Robwin

yeah, well, it was AP titling the story after all.

I’d really be curious as to exactly whom was doing the objecting. Personally I think the guy is amazing. There was lack of leadership on the part of the university president imo jmo moo

for those who don’t know much who Ben is:

[Stein] graduated from Columbia University in 1966 with honors in economics. He graduated from Yale Law School in 1970 as valedictorian of his class by election of his classmates. He also studied in the graduate school of economics at Yale. He has worked as an economist at The Department of Commerce, a poverty lawyer in New Haven and Washington, D.C., a trial lawyer in the field of trade regulation at the Federal Trade Commission in Washington, D.C., a university adjunct at American University in Washington, D.C., at the University of California at Santa Cruz, and at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA. At American U. He taught about the political and social content of mass culture. He taught the same subject at UCSC, as well as about political and civil rights under the Constitution. At Pepperdine, he has taught about libel law and about securities law and ethical issues since 1986...

He has written, co-written and published thirty books, including seven novels, largely about life in Los Angeles, and twenty-one nonfiction books, about finance and about ethical and social issue in finance, and also about the political and social content of mass culture.
http://www.benstein.com


30 posted on 02/06/2009 7:16:50 PM PST by blueplum
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To: DevNet

IBTZ?


31 posted on 02/06/2009 7:19:07 PM PST by Clint Lippo
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To: blueplum

How can we sane people get rid of the Northeastern states?


32 posted on 02/06/2009 7:35:19 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: blueplum

don’t put us in the position to support a man who supports Al Freaklin........


33 posted on 02/06/2009 8:22:37 PM PST by cherry
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To: daniel1212
First of all, it's no wonder Richard Dawkins doesn't like it. In the film, Dawkins suggests that perhaps noted scientist Francis Crick may be correct and that life came from aliens who seeded the earth.

As for Rotten Tomatoes, one must remember that these "critics" gave Michael Moore's "documentaries" something like a 90% approval rating.

34 posted on 02/06/2009 8:27:33 PM PST by Timmy
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To: billorites

You may not believe in a intelligent design, so are you saying that you believe in Darwinian evolution? That is like being a flat earther. No one takes Darwin seriously anymore.


35 posted on 02/06/2009 8:46:13 PM PST by gscc
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To: blueplum

This controversy is not now nor has it ever been a debate about “science”. It is about metaphysics. It is a philosophical struggle between those who hold a naturalistic/materialistic worldview and those who believe in a higher power. The materialists have been largely successful in framing the debate as “science” vs. “anti-science” (or superstition, ingnorance, etc.), but this simply is not true.


36 posted on 02/06/2009 8:50:37 PM PST by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: blueplum

Buncha thugs. They clearly are INTOLERANT of those who hold different viewpoints than their own.


37 posted on 02/06/2009 8:52:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: gscc

Except for those using genomic research to develop better crops and cures for diseases.


38 posted on 02/06/2009 8:52:56 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: blueplum

Stein really didn’t need to piss off his allies by financing and endorsing Franken. Now, nobody is going to rise to his defense.


39 posted on 02/06/2009 8:54:43 PM PST by Rastus
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To: DevNet
So when did Scientific American start doing movie reviews? Did they review An Inconvenient Truth, and point out any errors in that film? What have they had to say about 'Global Warming'?
40 posted on 02/06/2009 8:55:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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