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To: Cherokee Conservative
Another heartless freeper.

I prefaced my comment with the phrase: "I know it's sad." I realize that this is a very serious and heart wrenching topic for many. If extraordinary measures need to be taken, maybe there comes a point when you go too far. Was it the doctor's call to tell this woman she couldn't have children because she was too poor? Did he have a right to determine her psychological fitness to become a parent? That's not his business, is it? In this situation, from what I have heard, the best thing for her would have been for a loving family member to sit down with her, before she chose to have the first procedure done, and tell her what she was planning on doing was not wise. The woman chose to give a chance of life to those embryos which she was responsible for. I commend her for that. I never said that it was government's business to make these determinations. I just said that with our advanced technology, we have opened a Pandora's box. There is a lot of hand ringing out there as a result.

54 posted on 02/13/2009 5:14:44 PM PST by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: stayathomemom

The only way what you suggest is going to happen every time is if the government mandates it. We’ve seen two examples in the news of women who got themselves in a real situation. Don’t think the media’s hyping of these TWO stories isn’t for a reason. People are in the middle of an economic crisis and anyone caught using tax dollars (even though many of them paid into the system for years too) is going to get their underwear ran up the flagpole, be raked over the coals, and have their personal lives trashed. But, conservatives should be more careful about what we condone and support.

No one can make family members keep their loved one’s from making poor decisions. It happens everyday. So, maybe not intentionally, but you’re setting yourself up to be a supporter of the government regulation that will be a response to all the anger over this. If it bothers you, work through the community to better the problem. You’re right that the doctor can’t make those decisions for her unless there are laws that regulate how IVF is done. Her family can’t force their wishes on her either. That leaves either personal responsibility, or the government. We’re already doing the personal responsibility thing, with the exception of providing government funds so those children don’t pay the price. What does that leave? Government. And with public that is so mad at the bloated government and it’s obsessive spending, they’ll lynch any common American who takes more than their fair share. It’s dangerous.

We all pay into the social security system, and we’ll never get back all that money before we die. I’d rather the money go to make sure all of those precious babies grow up with food on the table and a roof over their head than to fund another porkulus bill. It’s worth the money to keep the government from telling us when we can have children, how many we can have, or whether we are “fit” in the eyes of you or them to have them. Some people aren’t fit, but who do you really want making that decision? I don’t want you making it, and I don’t want the government making it. Perhaps pass laws that limit how many embryos the doctors can implant at one time, but don’t give the government any control with their ambitions to control every citizen’s life and family. Read up on the population control movement in this country, and you’ll probably feel the same way. Especially read the history of Planned Parenthood.


55 posted on 02/13/2009 5:32:37 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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