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ENERGY: SoCal Edison signs large solar-power deal
North County Times ^ | February 11, 2009 | CHRIS BAGLEY

Posted on 02/13/2009 12:21:34 PM PST by calcowgirl

Southern California Edison said it has wrapped up the world's largest-ever agreement to buy electricity generated by solar power, a series of generators in California's eastern deserts that could eventually supply more than 800,000 homes.

The utility, which serves Riverside County and the sprawling southern California territory outside of the city of Los Angeles and San Diego County, hopes the first of seven plants will begin operating in 2013, the company said in a press release Wednesday morning. The Rosemead-based utility counts nearly 5 million customers in Riverside and a half-dozen other California counties.

BrightSource Energy Inc. of Oakland would build and operate the plants. The first plant, in the Mojave desert near the Nevada state line, could supply 100 megawatts of electricity, enough for 65,000 homes, according to Edison. Larger plants to follow would be able to supply a total of 1.2 gigawatts, Edison said.

The contracts require the approval of the California Public Utilities Commission.

A 2006 state law mandates that electric utilities obtain 20 percent of their electricity from wind, solar and other renewable sources by 2010. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger recently set a goal of 33 percent by 2020.

Less than 12 percent of the electricity used in the state now comes from renewable sources, according to the California Energy Commission. Another 11.7 percent comes from large hydroelectric plants, which don't count as renewable sources under state guidelines.

Edison's renewable ratio was 15.7 percent in 2007, compared with 11.4 percent for Pacific Gas & Electric in Northern California and 5.2 percent for San Diego Gas & Electric, according to the energy commission. Edison said solar power accounted for less than 1 percent of its total power that year.

Edison and BrightSource provided little detail on how they hope to transmit the electricity from the first site, on federally owned land 70 miles south of Las Vegas. Edison representatives said the utility might upgrade existing transmission lines for use beginning in 2013; new, higher-capacity lines might follow in 2016 or 2017, they said.

"The question is, 'how big is the pipe and where will it be located?'" said Stuart Hemphill, Edison's vice president for renewable and alternative power.

BrightSource officials haven't specified where the other six plants might be built. Hemphill said he expected all to be in or near San Bernardino County, where most of the state's solar electricity was produced in 2007.

BrightSource calls its design the "Power Tower." The company's Web site describes it as a circular field of mirrors covering several acres, which would reflect sunlight onto a water tank mounted atop a tower.

The focused sunlight would heat water into steam. That steam, in turn, would drive the turbines whose spinning creates alternating-current electricity.

Gas-fired plants typically use steam and turbines on the same basic principle. A BrightSource spokesman said the company may add small gas-fired generators at the sites for use at night and during heavy cloud cover.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: brightsource; calenergy; energy; millionsolarroofs; rfkjr; sce; solar; solarpower; tamminen
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To: calcowgirl

What I find interesting about this so called “Green Energy” facility is what is the efficiency of the plant itself, I mean I don’t think moonlight is strong enough to boil water so, I assume this plant is shutdown at night. If the plant is down at night then where will the power come from?

It will be funny when the environmentalist start going at each other over these plants destroying some environmental habitat.


21 posted on 02/13/2009 2:37:23 PM PST by Willies Revenge
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Ironically the "Power Tower" concept is one of the most low-tech yet economically feasible solar designs. It has been around for at least thirty years to my direct knowledge, and could serve to provide a real contribution while all the hi-tech nano space age wet dreams of engineers languish in smallcap limbo.

If it works, use it. What the hell.

22 posted on 02/13/2009 2:56:43 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Daus
Do they recover the steam back to water? If not, how do you get that water in the middle of desert?

It's a closed loop system. No significant loss to the outside atmosphere.

23 posted on 02/13/2009 2:58:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: calcowgirl
"These folks make me sick."

No wonder the Austrian needs higher taxes. Only way to honor family commitments...

24 posted on 02/13/2009 5:23:43 PM PST by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: Willies Revenge; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl
"A BrightSource spokesman said the company may add small gas-fired generators at the sites for use at night and during heavy cloud cover."

There's yer answer, Willie! Right there in the last line of the exposed artickle!! Wait till the EnvironMentalistas git aholt of THAT!!!

A non-renewable, non-sustainable resourse being built in as a "back-up!" Scandalous!! And think of the robbery of radiation from the wildlife and the watershed, to say nothing of the desacration of the viewshed from I-15!!!

25 posted on 02/13/2009 6:06:24 PM PST by SierraWasp (Remember THIS!!! Government doesn't have ANY money!!! (of it's own) I'm in contempt of CONgress!!!)
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To: Willies Revenge
Making money in a regulated energy business has NOTHING to do with providing a product efficiently, especially in the case of Southern California Edison. It's a long post, but it explains how we got into this mess.
26 posted on 02/13/2009 6:10:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascsim one ruse at a time.)
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To: calcowgirl
BrightSource calls its design the "Power Tower." The company's Web site describes it as a circular field of mirrors covering several acres, which would reflect sunlight onto a water tank mounted atop a tower.

That sounds similar to the Solar plant at Dagget..just east of Barstow and near the Marine facility.

27 posted on 02/14/2009 11:16:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: calcowgirl
Resource link:

Large Solar Energy Projects in California

Photos:

Stock Photo - Solar power plant using parabolic through mirrors, Daggett, California

Doesn't show the tower holding the mechanism which the mirrors focus on,.

28 posted on 02/14/2009 11:21:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If Solar is so terrific, how come they closed the Dagget operation?

(I’d never heard of it before, but is the last one shown on your “solar projects” link)


29 posted on 02/15/2009 12:07:42 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

They closed it cause they ran out of subsidy money ....still need that of course.


30 posted on 02/15/2009 6:43:17 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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