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The Plight of the Left-Wing Talkers
The Weekly Standard ^ | 02/23/2009 | Philip Terzian

Posted on 02/14/2009 6:46:40 AM PST by Delacon

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 The truth, of course, is that if Barbara Boxer or Barney Frank or any other progressive, famous or obscure, had a radio talk show that garnered high ratings and earned millions in advertising revenue, "the handful of companies that own most radio stations" would be climbing over each other to sign them up. The idea that station owners would refrain from making money for ideological reasons is not only laughable, but insulting to the basic instincts of most people in business. Somebody who calls his radio station OBAMA 1260 is not going to collude with other owners to keep the airwaves liberal-free.
1 posted on 02/14/2009 6:46:40 AM PST by Delacon
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith; neverdem; free_life; LibertyRocks; MNReaganite; ...
 
PETITION TO BLOCK CONGRESSIONAL
ATTACKS ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PRESS
To: U.S. Congress, President of the United States, Supreme Court of the United States

Whereas, the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution clearly states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances";

Whereas, members of Congress are recently on record saying they want to re-impose the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" on U.S. broadcasters, or else accomplish the same goal of censoring talk radio by other means, and thereby establish government and quasi-government watchdogs as the arbiters of "fairness" rather than the free and open marketplace of ideas;

Whereas, the U.S. experimented with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" for 38 years - from 1949 through 1987 - during which time it was repeatedly used by presidents and other political leaders to muzzle dissent and criticism;

Whereas, the abandonment of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987, thanks to President Ronald Reagan, resulted in an unprecedented explosion of new and diverse voices and political speech - starting with Rush Limbaugh - that revitalized the AM radio band and provided Americans with a multitude of alternative viewpoints;

Whereas, talk radio is one of the most crucial components of the free press in America, and is single-handedly responsible for informing tens of millions of Americans about what their government leaders are doing;

Whereas, it is a wholly un-American idea that government should be the watchdog of the press and a policeman of speech, as opposed to the uniquely American ideal of a free people and a free press being the vigilant watchdogs of government;

Whereas, the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" - either under that name, or using a new name and even more devious methods - represents a frontal assault on the First Amendment, and its re-imposition would constitute nothing more nor less than the crippling of America's robust, unfettered, free press:

 

                                SIGN THE PETITION at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87882

 
Freepmail me if you want to join my fairness doctrine ping list.

2 posted on 02/14/2009 6:47:31 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

If the “Fairness Doctrine gets reinstated, sattelite radio will take off fast.

-—The reason it’s introuble now is that its talk radio is pathetic and its “religious programming” is run by people who don’t know the business.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 6:51:36 AM PST by cookcounty (Lincoln saw slaves in America and freed them. Obama saw slaves in Iraq and gave them the finger..)
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To: Delacon

The political right should—right now—be putting together hundreds of lawsuits against TV and other media providers, that should be filed in federal courts nationwide, simultaneously, when the fairness doctrine is reanimated.

They have already compiled endless examples of left wing bias, often open bias, and assert that the fairness doctrine must be applied equally to TV, Hollywood, and any other broadcast media corporation, not just radio.

It should demand that conservatives be hired on a 1:1 ratio with liberals, and in support of this, an unofficial “guild” of conservative commentators be created, so they can’t just hire an Olbermann type and call him a conservative.


4 posted on 02/14/2009 6:53:37 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I still wouldn’t support the Nazi Fairness Doctrine but would think better of it if I thought it would apply to both sides.

And even if it was it is so hard to enforce and prove. The lefties would claim a reporter commenting that “Obama’s hat was on a little oddly” or something innocuous would claim that counts as a different perspective.


5 posted on 02/14/2009 7:02:28 AM PST by cubsfanconswoman (If Obama wants to redistribute wealth can start with Yankees WS titles to the Cubs Just 1!)
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To: Delacon
Actually, the Fairness Doctrine barely survived in the Supreme Court in the Red Lion case, four decades ago. And the factual basis the Court used to uphold it then, that broadcast outlets were "scarce" compared to the print media outlets, has reversed.

As a First Amendment practitioner in the Supreme Court, I expect that a renewed Fairness Doctrine would not survive Court review today, unless Obama gets to appoint an operating majority on the Court of Justices who will ignore the Constitution.

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6 posted on 02/14/2009 7:06:32 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Latest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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I think that if we start attacking TV and print for not being fair in broadcasting conservative perspectives, we concede the point that there needs to be a government enforced “balance” in our right to free speech. I for one am not willing to concede that point. It may also come to bite us on the ass. The left will agree that there needs to be balance across all venues then proceed to only enforce it in radio.
7 posted on 02/14/2009 7:10:08 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Congressman Billybob

“Actually, the Fairness Doctrine barely survived in the Supreme Court in the Red Lion case, four decades ago. And the factual basis the Court used to uphold it then, that broadcast outlets were “scarce” compared to the print media outlets, has reversed.”

I disagree. If you go back and look at the ruling the court UPHELD the constitutionality of the “fairness doctrine”. The court said that the FCC had the RIGHT to enforce the doctrine but wasn’t OBLIGED to enforce it. Pretty weak ruling if you asked me. After the ruling, the conservative leaning FCC CHOSE not to enforce it. The courts could rule the exact same way today and with a left leaning FCC could choose to enforce it.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 7:16:13 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Look at it this way, my friends. The problem does NOT reside in TALK radio. The Libs have a serious problem with LISTEN radio. The VAST majority of LISTENERS are tuned into conservative radio.
I don’t think this it an attempt to stifle the TALK over the radio.
Rather, it is an attempt to limit what we can LISTEN to.
Radios have not only an On and Off button, they also come equipped with a “station tuning” control, therein lies the problem for the LEFT. They don’t want US to have a listening option.
Some years ago, a local Classical Music station sold a radio, pretuned and capable of getting ONLY their station.
This may be next. Don’t doubt ANYTHING.


9 posted on 02/14/2009 7:18:36 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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It would be interesting to take a look at the companies that advertise on Talk Radio from a market capitalization standpoint. Here's my hypothesis: Very large conglomerates (call them VLC's) by & large do not do such advertising.

VLC's spend their advertising dollars on Sunday News Shows such shows as "Face the Nation", and other such high profile MSM fare like "The Today Show". They also throw gobs of money lobbying Congress & the Administration as well as funding various campaign war chests. Why? Because keeping government on your side is more important than a marginal increase in sales. Political allies will insure that your company is insulated from having to compete.

Now look at the flip-side. You're a small or medium-size company and you are looking to grow rapidly in a competitive marketplace. As such you are not yet on any politician or major CEO's 'radar screen'. Where do you put your advertising dollar? Talk Radio is one place that gets you a lot of 'Bang for the Buck'.

Well that's my hypothesis. Maybe some enterprising MBA-candidate can come up with a way to test it.

10 posted on 02/14/2009 7:21:37 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Delacon

A few more points
1. The “under represented” left appears to have won it all, so where is the proof of any harm or undue influence on public opinion?

2. The fairness doctrine is unfair to the poor who could not get cable radio.

3. The other side is readily available in many free media formats - just DON’T LOOK at your T.V. screen and ta-da! You then have a “RADIO”

4. It has been shown that lies are more readily detected on the telephone than in person. (This is counter intuitive, but was shown in an experiment a long time ago). My theory has always been that the right goes with information and facts and the left uses emotion and charm. That is why the pure medium of radio is so troublesome to the left. They can’t use visual distraction and when heard in pure audio form their ideas just don’t stand up.


11 posted on 02/14/2009 7:27:59 AM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: Delacon

FIRST they will have to get rid of NPR


12 posted on 02/14/2009 7:28:57 AM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: Delacon

If we implement the Fairness Doctrine we should start with learning institutions, kindergarten through college. That is the place attitudes and beliefs are shaped.


13 posted on 02/14/2009 7:34:11 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
Rather, it is an attempt to limit what we can LISTEN to.

Lots of luck with that.

14 posted on 02/14/2009 7:42:46 AM PST by Seven plus One
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To: Delacon
neither Dick Durbin nor Tom Harkin--nor even Bill Press--has expressed the slightest concern about "balance" or "both sides of the story" in, say, the nation's daily newspapers or news magazines or in Hollywood or the book publishing trade. In the one place where conservatives have gained a foothold, and might even be said to dominate, congressional Democrats are determined to shut them down--and not by way of market forces, or competition, but through enabling legislation. So much for the First Amendment.


15 posted on 02/14/2009 7:46:16 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: Tallguy

I think you’re right. Most of the advertising on talk radio seems to be for either local business or “off brand” national stuff like Carbonite, fad nutrition/diet products, DIY legal services, etc.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 7:59:06 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Delacon
2 months ago a Boston AM station moved a sports talk morning show for The Jeff Santos Show" "The voice of progressive radio in Boston".

His main shtick was to have another Big Dig to link North and South Station by rail.

Last Monday he was replaced by ESPN radio.

17 posted on 02/14/2009 8:04:57 AM PST by AU72
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To: Delacon

Of course, it’s not about fairness, it’s about control. Radio is one media the left doesn’t control. Therefore, something must be done.

If Press wants radio exposure, let him work for it like other people have done.

The reason liberal talk radio doesn’t succeed is because there are already too many liberal opinion outlets to name. When liberals control radio news and NPR, what room is left for liberal talk shows? Conservative talk radio exists because there’s a market for it.


18 posted on 02/14/2009 8:44:19 AM PST by popdonnelly (I went to an Obama Townhall and threw away my crutches!)
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To: Delacon; cubsfanconswoman

Unfortunately, we are in a position of great weakness. The left has control of everything but the SCOTUS. However, to our advantage they are a cowardly and weak lot. This is why I proposed a massive lawfare counterattack.

This hits them triply. First, like turning on a kitchen light, it exposes their backdoor sneakiness to the public, and like cockroaches, they try to skitter away. Second, it throws the debate to the judiciary, where the clearly unconstitutional nature of the fairness doctrine (or whatever euphemism for its new incarnation they choose to use), can get eviscerated. And third, it is a direct attack against perhaps their most important ally, the MSM, who will panic at the prospect of losing their monopoly on political speech.

In short, it will strip the idea of support, tear it up in the courts, and panic the media into standing against it, even though they want to use it against conservatives.

So there is little chance that the idea will gain credibility. The left sees talk radio as worth far less than TV and Hollywood.


19 posted on 02/14/2009 8:46:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Delacon
What these left wing nut jobs fail to understand is that local stations would air their drivel in a heartbeat if it had an audience. Conservative talk radio is in demand because of its large listening audience and advertisers want to buy ad time when people are listening. The only reason uber liberal PBS radio stays on the air is government subsidy and their begathons that harangue their few listeners into buying subscriptions. If PBS actually had to compete for an audience they would have been out of business decades ago.
20 posted on 02/14/2009 8:48:13 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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