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America's Unacknowledged War
Threatswatch ^ | Feb. 14, 2009 | Jay Fraser

Posted on 02/14/2009 3:59:00 PM PST by AuntB

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America needs more so in its history right now a President in charge that has no qualms about going to war be it home or abroad, the sooner we get Obama out the sooner we can show that we will not be subjugated or threatened or even blackmailed by enemies, nations or individuals wishing harm upon us.

Every day he is in office our enemies creep closer and become more embolden.

Its time for 4th and long, we need to flood the airwaves and truly educate America with the illegal position that Obama has usurped by his flagrant disregard of the laws of the Constitution of his eligibility.


41 posted on 02/15/2009 9:27:47 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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Asking again:

Do you agree that a legal market in the US would deprive the cartels of that portion of their funding which comes from marijuana?

And I also wanted to clarify whether or not you are contending that denying drug profits to the cartels would increase the smuggling of terrorists into this country. Is that your contention or isn't it?

42 posted on 02/15/2009 9:52:17 AM PST by Ken H
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Sure legal marijuana would cut into their profits but they would simply turn to smuggling other things and terrorists are only one of those things.

However serious border control is the single most effective means and yes I’m still OK with marijuana decriminalization.


43 posted on 02/15/2009 9:56:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Sure legal marijuana would cut into their profits but they would simply turn to smuggling other things and terrorists are only one of those things.

Why do you say they would "turn to" smuggling terrorists - aren't they doing that already? Asking once more, is it your position that depriving the cartels of their drug profits would increase the smuggling of terrorists - YES or NO?

However serious border control is the single most effective means and yes I'm still OK with marijuana decriminalization.

We both agreed that decrimnalization wouldn't put a dent in the cartels. Are you OK with a well regulated, legal market (which is NOT the same as decriminalizing) for mj, say along the lines of alcohol?

44 posted on 02/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Ken H
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It probably would increase terrorist smuggling to some extent but that’s not the entire point. After all $2000 to bring a mexican gardener across the border pales in comparison to bringing an unknown for $20,000 The fact is that the money would find its way into the same hands by other means.

As far as the drugs are concerned I just don’t care anymore and this attempt to mastrubate about drugs on any thread about Mexico is more than just a little tiresome. Fact is, legalizing drugs will only lead to another whole set of laws and costs.


45 posted on 02/15/2009 10:45:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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“....demanding that the Mexican government and our own government provides us with all the details of these incursions.”
I’m sure that the Mexican Government, who are in charge of the Mexican Military escorting the drug runners into the USA, will give us exactly the information we desire.
(sarcasm)


46 posted on 02/15/2009 1:42:01 PM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
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Thanks for the ping. This is serious stuff.


47 posted on 02/15/2009 4:23:07 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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It probably would increase terrorist smuggling to some extent but that's not the entire point. After all $2000 to bring a mexican gardener across the border pales in comparison to bringing an unknown for $20,000

So these cartels are killing each other over a finite amount of drug profits, yet they are passing up opportunities to make $20,000 a pop. You don't actually buy that you?

The fact is that the money would find its way into the same hands by other means.

Rubbish. You saw the figures posted to you by SmallGovRepub. Where are they going to get the money to replace 62% of their income?

As far as the drugs are concerned I just don't care anymore and this attempt to mastrubate about drugs on any thread about Mexico is more than just a little tiresome.

Does that mean you type with one hand when posting on drug war threads?

Fact is, legalizing drugs will only lead to another whole set of laws and costs.

Fact is, you dodged the question, again. I asked specifically about marijuana, not drugs in general:

Are you OK with a well regulated, legal market (which is NOT the same as decriminalizing) for mj, say along the lines of alcohol?

What say you?

48 posted on 02/15/2009 4:28:50 PM PST by Ken H
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