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Exclusive: Our beautiful Jenna died from a brain haemorrhage... even though I begged for a scan
The UK Daily Mirror ^ | 2/11/09 | Laura Armstrong

Posted on 02/14/2009 8:14:42 PM PST by Reaganesque

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To: ERJCaptain
"In my freshman year of college, my right hand was going numb and was twitching. A week later, I decided to call a neurologist. The same day I had an appointment, I had an EMG, and I got an MRI. I think my parents paid a total of $100. The diagnosis... Carpel-Tunnel Syndrome."

What country are you from? There is no way you would have gotten an EMG and an MRI for $100 here in the states.

21 posted on 02/14/2009 8:48:56 PM PST by Spunky ((You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences))
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To: Spunky

This was seven..err... eight years ago. I don’t remember the exact number, but it was astoundingly cheap. My parents were paying for it, and I can still remember seeing the bill and saying, “Wow, that’s all it cost?” It might not have been $100 (that was the first number that popped into my head), but it was still surprisingly inexpensive. They did have awfully good insurance, better than I have now. Who knows?


22 posted on 02/14/2009 8:54:03 PM PST by ERJCaptain
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The underpinnings of Socialized Medizine are in the stimulus bill that just passed.

Fight it for your life!!!

23 posted on 02/14/2009 8:54:14 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: Reaganesque
Exclusive: Our beautiful Jenna died from a brain haemorrhage... even though I begged for a scan.

Obama and his evil democrat party tossed this into the "Stimulus" package: Medical rationing and penalizing doctors who order tests.

24 posted on 02/14/2009 8:56:04 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: BobL
>>>(assuming they get control of their crime).<<<

That's probably not in the cards. I think they will migrate North...and to Brazil and Argentina.

25 posted on 02/14/2009 9:00:04 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: Reaganesque

Is their NHS immune to lawsuits? Good grief, are they making the case for tort lawyers? Holy carp.


26 posted on 02/14/2009 9:04:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government)
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To: Reaganesque

An honest mistake. Someone must have transposed the patient’s age, and reported her to be 61 instead of 16.

/sarcasm


27 posted on 02/14/2009 9:06:48 PM PST by denydenydeny (People in dictatorships long for truth while pampered, decadent people in the West long for myth.)
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To: Spunky
The $100 was probably their deductible or their co-pay, not the total cost of the treatment.
28 posted on 02/14/2009 9:09:04 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: ga medic
“There is no healthcare system in the world that can prevent doctors, nurses and other medical personnel from making mistakes.”

That's right. My wife who has no para-thyroids (cancer surgery 3 years ago) and because of that suffers from calcium management problems. There weeks ago she had an outpatient GI procedure done. Two nights later she woke up and vomited blood. An ambulance crew took her to the ER.

She had emergency surgery to fix the out patient surgery screw up.. that took loner than normal. She had lost 2/3’s her blood! In recovery her daughter and I told the nursing crew about her calcium problem and to get a bag running immediately. The did so with a bag of saline.

She woke up the next day and was feeling horrible. She was sure she was going to die. We had the nurse check her calcium and it was extremely low. This meant she was about go minutes to an hour from death. Too low calcium means heart arrest and death. Her daughter and I got on the phone to hospital admin and doctors. Within 20 minutes they had a bag of calcium running wide open. Added another immediately.

We also made them remove the saline and instead put on a bag with sugar water. Plain saline keeps her blood pressure up but FLUSHES calcium and they had been running saline for over 30 hours at that point. So we had her moved to ICU.

The next day she woke up and said she knows she had also died. She was feeling better but worn out and went back to sleep. That night though, she called me at home and said she had seen the latest calcium stats and she was about a point OVER normal.

Too much can also kill you! So she pulled the IV and her and I agreed to make calls to her doctors and the hospital admin again. Finally she went back to sleep.

We got her out in the morning as early as possible. So within 48 hours she nearly died from a GI bleed, nearly had a heart attack from too low calcium, then nearly died from to high calcium.

All preventable ERRORS.. we had told the hospital, doctors, and nurses of the calcium situation since the beginning. As my wife said if it wasw anyone else in there with no one watching out for her she would have died three times!

And she is a former RN and was sad about what she had been through. How many out there have died from these type of “accidents”??? I reminded her that with bHo in office many will die from these type of "accidents"! She agreed that she was lucky her daughter and I know what it going on.

How many out there aren't aware of all the stuff to watch for?

29 posted on 02/14/2009 9:56:53 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Reaganesque

You know, I agree with you in theory, but we’re facing something similar (though not as dire as this story) and great insurance and a dozen experts aren’t helping us.

For three years my 17 year old daughter’s been suffering terrible migraines. Her joints are swelling off and on and she’s having chest pain and heart palpitations. But the doctors just aren’t listening. Over and over doctors tell us that there’s nothing wrong with her, but her fingers and knees get HUGE, red, stiff and hot off and on and I know that this is NOT in her head. We get an abnormal blood test (elevated sed rate or elevated C-reactive protein) and the doctor says that it’s not abnormal enough. One pupil blows (fixed and dilated) and the eye socket swells to the point where the eyeball is bulging and we’re told that it didn’t happen. (Even though an ER doc, our family doc and the school nurse all witnessed it - it didn’t happen. It’s impossible because something like that would never resolve on it’s own.)

One afternoon (about a year ago) she was laying in my bed with yet another headache. I told her to get ready to go. (We were going to an exotic animal farm to pick out a puppy.) She couldn’t get out of bed.

*That* is when it hit me just how much she was suffering.

And she gets that bad almost every afternoon. The only thing that keeps her going is rage. Rage at the entire medical community. Rage at her own body. Rage at her weakness.

The medical system is *broken*. The doctors are burned out. I *know* we’re not the only people in this boat.

Socialized medicine will only make it worse, but we have to admit that it’s awful now. Situations like ours make the general public desperate for a solution and when people get desperate, they have knee-jerk reactions and do stupid things.


30 posted on 02/14/2009 10:01:34 PM PST by Marie ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Reaganesque

I think you can find these stories in the U.S. as well. Misdiagnosis is big in medicine.


31 posted on 02/14/2009 10:12:58 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Marie

Praying for your daughter. ~Pandora~


32 posted on 02/14/2009 10:14:28 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: CyberAnt

And .. according to the stimulus - the main target will be the elderly .. because if you’re past a certain age .. and you’re just going to die anyway .. we can’t waste the govt’s money on helping you.

It seems to me that they are striving to have people live forever. Look at the mandates on foods that they are trying to take away from people, drugs that are being created. I think it is total opposite of what you believe that they want people to live until over 100 years old.


33 posted on 02/14/2009 10:14:59 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Reaganesque

This story is the most chilling one I’ve seen:
An American traveling in the UK...

http://www.nahu.org/media/singlepayervideo.cfm


34 posted on 02/14/2009 10:16:44 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: pandoraou812

Thank you. We’ll take ‘em! :-(


35 posted on 02/14/2009 10:25:03 PM PST by Marie ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: ga medic
A guy in my station had surgery on a broken ankle last fall. He was in the hospital recovering from other injuries as well. His wife kept asking what the smell was, and the nurses kept saying she was imagining things. 3 days later when he finally saw the doctor who did the surgery, the bandages came off and the ankle was horribly infected. He had his left ankle amputated and is now learning how to use his new prosthesis

A year and a half ago I was injured by a falling crate at work. The hospital bandaged it,gave me a tetanus shot, took an xray and sent me home. About 2 weeks later I noticed the wound was healing rather slow and went to the Emergency room again and they gave me antibiotics, rebandaged the leg and sent me home. About a week later I was at my urologist and showed him my leg just as an afterthought and he was horrified-he made me go to the nearest ER right away. While there the emergency room doctor removed the bandage and a smell like stale sweat socks came from the wound, which had gotten so big there was actually a visible hole in the leg-long story short it was gangrene which my surgeon said was caught just in time to save the lower part of my leg. After 2 operations and a skin graft everything turned out fine. According to the hospital everything was done correctly and getting gangrene was just bad luck.

36 posted on 02/14/2009 10:55:29 PM PST by Larry381 (Politicians are like diapers - they should be changed frequently, and for the same reason)
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To: Marie

Have you or have you considered putting her on an elimination diet?


37 posted on 02/14/2009 11:10:58 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Reaganesque

Reality is that if the US system weren’t flooded with illegals, this would not be an issue.


38 posted on 02/14/2009 11:59:48 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Reaganesque
As the saying goes: "If you think healthcare costs too much now, wait until it's 'free'!"
39 posted on 02/15/2009 12:30:36 AM PST by cartoonistx
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To: napscoordinator
I think you can find these stories in the U.S. as well. Misdiagnosis is big in medicine.

The difference is that in the US CAT scans and other extensive testing measures aren't rationed so tightly as in socialized systems. In fact, many doctors and hospitals use them as a form of CYA against the dreaded lawsuits that inevitably follow any death or severe downturn in a patient's condition. (you see... trial lawyers DO have a natural purpose!;')
40 posted on 02/15/2009 12:38:24 AM PST by cartoonistx
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