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Unthinkable [British and French Nuke Subs Collide]
UK SUN ^ | 2/15/2009 | TOM NEWTON DUNN

Posted on 02/15/2009 5:06:02 PM PST by Velveeta

BRITISH and French nuclear submarines which collided deep under the Atlantic could have sunk or released deadly radioactivity, it emerged last night. The Royal Navy’s HMS Vanguard and the French Navy’s Le Triomphant are both nuclear powered and were carrying nuke missiles.

Between them they had around 250 sailors on board.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: france; nuclear; royalnavy; submarines; tm
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1 posted on 02/15/2009 5:06:02 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

All together now - AND THE FRENCH IMMEDIATELY SURRENDERED!


2 posted on 02/15/2009 5:07:08 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Enterprise

HMS UNTHINKABLE Struck the French Navy Sub Le Grande Surrender


3 posted on 02/15/2009 5:10:29 PM PST by omega4179 (1.20.13 end of an error , a big one.)
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To: Velveeta

“As inquiries began, naval sources said it was a millions-to-one unlucky chance both subs were in the same patch of sea.”

Just as probable as two satellites colliding in space? Given enough time I expect anything is quite probable.


4 posted on 02/15/2009 5:10:45 PM PST by TCats
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To: Enterprise

This isn’t funny. How many souls on board?


5 posted on 02/15/2009 5:10:51 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are lubricated with pig grease!")
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To: Velveeta

HMS Vanguard ... carries 16 Trident missiles

6 posted on 02/15/2009 5:11:28 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: elcid1970
"How many souls on board?"

I believe they all had souls.

7 posted on 02/15/2009 5:12:08 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Velveeta

They have both been towed in, two Captains are looking for new jobs.


8 posted on 02/15/2009 5:12:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: omega4179

LOL !!!


9 posted on 02/15/2009 5:12:43 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Velveeta

We got any out there or has bambe recalled them all?


10 posted on 02/15/2009 5:13:29 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Velveeta

This is horrible. Godspeed to all hands.

I don’t know what this is a greater testimony of, the inadequate sonar/radar systems of both subs for detecting other vessels in the area or the incredible stealth characteristics of both subs.


11 posted on 02/15/2009 5:13:51 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: TCats

boomer “chicken” out there maybe. wait, one was a frenchy, never mind.


12 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:02 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Velveeta

The English sub was driving on the wrong side of the ocean again.


13 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:03 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: Velveeta

Franglais?


14 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:08 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: Velveeta

There’s a lot more to this story than we’l ever know.


15 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:19 PM PST by blam
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To: Velveeta

We saw recently an article about two satellites colliding, I wonder which of these two events was meant to minimize the other.


16 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:35 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: elcid1970

Evidently and fortunately, there were no injuries.


17 posted on 02/15/2009 5:14:53 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

If the article is to be credited, this amounts to 25% of the UK’s nuclear deterrent, since I presume that any remaining land-based missiles could probably be taken out. I confess that I haven’t kept up with the nuclear deterrant question for several decades, so I don’t know that for sure.

“Vanguard is one of Britain’s four V-Class subs forming our Trident nuclear deterrent. Each is armed with 16 ballistic missiles.”

If this really was in mid-Atlantic, it’s an extraordinary thing to have happened.


18 posted on 02/15/2009 5:15:06 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JoeProBono

Yeesh - that’s a powerful load.


19 posted on 02/15/2009 5:15:27 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: blam

you bet


20 posted on 02/15/2009 5:15:35 PM PST by shielagolden
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To: Velveeta
'But modern anti-sonar technology is so good it is possible neither boat “saw” the other.'

But since neither country is currently involved in a shooting war, don't ya think it would be a good idea to hit the 'off' switch on that shit? Or at least honk your horn?


21 posted on 02/15/2009 5:15:51 PM PST by Viking2002 (The Occupation has begun. God help America.)
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To: Venturer

....and new underwear...


22 posted on 02/15/2009 5:16:01 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: blam

Get Jack Bauer on the case, immediately.


23 posted on 02/15/2009 5:16:45 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Velveeta
I never got around to posting this,could be connected. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4547649/French-fighter-planes-grounded-by-computer-virus.html French fighter planes grounded by computer virus.. The French newspaper Ouest France said the virus had hit the internal computer network at the French Navy. Jérome Erulin, French navy spokesman told the paper: "It affected exchanges of information but no information was lost. It was a security problem we had already simulated. We cut the communication links that could have transmitted the virus and 99 per cent of the network is safe." However, the French navy admitted that during the time it took to eradicate the virus, it had to return to more traditional forms of communication: telephone, fax and post.
24 posted on 02/15/2009 5:17:19 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: Enterprise
I really don't see this as a “comedy” thread. What is with all the jokes and the “LOLs!”

Some decent and brave men may be injured, maimed, or dying.

25 posted on 02/15/2009 5:18:01 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Viking2002

“One if by land. Two if by sea”


26 posted on 02/15/2009 5:18:43 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: omega4179

Or,

HMS BENDOVERFOR ISLAM beheaded the French sub Laisse Faire.


27 posted on 02/15/2009 5:19:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GSP.FAN

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4547649/French-fighter-planes-grounded-by-computer-virus.html

That should be better?


28 posted on 02/15/2009 5:19:41 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: Velveeta
The naval source said: “Crashing a nuclear submarine is as serious as it gets.”

Oh really ?

29 posted on 02/15/2009 5:20:22 PM PST by Timocrat
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To: Viking2002

Is it possible that they were being environmentally sensitive and not using their best sonar to avoid offending the sea people.


30 posted on 02/15/2009 5:20:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Velveeta

Don’t they drive on different sides of the road?


31 posted on 02/15/2009 5:21:10 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: blam

Indeed.


32 posted on 02/15/2009 5:22:56 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: SkyPilot

LOL!!!


33 posted on 02/15/2009 5:23:20 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Velveeta

...quelle merde!


34 posted on 02/15/2009 5:23:28 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: Velveeta

Maybe they should have thought about it.


35 posted on 02/15/2009 5:23:40 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( Accept it, there is no except after in math.)
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To: elcid1970

All survived.

Suggestion is that the anti sonar technology hid them from each other.


36 posted on 02/15/2009 5:24:13 PM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: SkyPilot

Just to set your mind at rest - no serious injuries. But I agree the jokes are a bit much.


37 posted on 02/15/2009 5:25:16 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: SkyPilot

All hands have been reported safe (in one reply). The captains’ careers may not survive.


38 posted on 02/15/2009 5:25:27 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: bobby.223

Frenchies play chicken all the time but it isn ot the same chicken we are used to.


39 posted on 02/15/2009 5:25:57 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: JoeProBono

Those near-deck mounted canards really make that thing look very ominous and beastly.


40 posted on 02/15/2009 5:26:42 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Enterprise

“How many souls on board?” I believe they all had souls.

Reminds me of the corny joke Gramps used on us kids every time he drove us by a cemetery. He’d say “Hey kids, how many dead in that cemetery?” after we’d start estimating the count of headstones he’d say “ALL of them!”.


41 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:06 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Democrats are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.)
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To: Nuc1

No, the Brits are on the wrong side, right?


42 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:13 PM PST by Euker
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To: elcid1970

I thought the same thing. Down in the very last paragraph they say they did NOT lose the subs or the crews. It’s a “what if”. Geez. Leave it to the Brits to be cryptic.


43 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:35 PM PST by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Regular Americans, we're on our own now. Push back the hordes!)
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To: Velveeta

Never heard of the 24 on the Ohio class?


44 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:37 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: GSP.FAN

So they were watching pr0n?


45 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:41 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: SkyPilot

Based upon the writeup I doubt there were any serious injuries if any at all.


46 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:43 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: SkyPilot

Right, but it happened two weeks ago.


47 posted on 02/15/2009 5:28:30 PM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: Carley
"Suggestion is that the anti sonar technology hid them from each other."

You mean it wasn't sonar failure caused by GLOBAL WARMING? Just wait a few days; everything bad is caused by Global Warming.

48 posted on 02/15/2009 5:28:34 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: Velveeta

“could have sunk or released deadly radioactivity, it emerged last night.”

This is really a poor choice of words...


49 posted on 02/15/2009 5:28:56 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Is it possible that they were being environmentally sensitive and not using their best sonar to avoid offending the sea people."

I think a more likely scenario was that the Brits were hammered and the French were fornicating with themselves - sorry all Brits.

50 posted on 02/15/2009 5:29:06 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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