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Unthinkable [British and French Nuke Subs Collide]
UK SUN ^
| 2/15/2009
| TOM NEWTON DUNN
Posted on 02/15/2009 5:06:02 PM PST by Velveeta
BRITISH and French nuclear submarines which collided deep under the Atlantic could have sunk or released deadly radioactivity, it emerged last night. The Royal Navys HMS Vanguard and the French Navys Le Triomphant are both nuclear powered and were carrying nuke missiles.
Between them they had around 250 sailors on board.
(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: france; nuclear; royalnavy; submarines; tm
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:06:02 PM PST
by
Velveeta
To: Velveeta
All together now - AND THE FRENCH IMMEDIATELY SURRENDERED!
2
posted on
02/15/2009 5:07:08 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
To: Enterprise
HMS UNTHINKABLE Struck the French Navy Sub Le Grande Surrender
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:10:29 PM PST
by
omega4179
(1.20.13 end of an error , a big one.)
To: Velveeta
“As inquiries began, naval sources said it was a millions-to-one unlucky chance both subs were in the same patch of sea.”
Just as probable as two satellites colliding in space? Given enough time I expect anything is quite probable.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:10:45 PM PST
by
TCats
To: Enterprise
This isn’t funny. How many souls on board?
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:10:51 PM PST
by
elcid1970
("O Muslim! My cartridges are lubricated with pig grease!")
To: Velveeta

HMS Vanguard ... carries 16 Trident missiles
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:11:28 PM PST
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet)
To: elcid1970
"How many souls on board?"
I believe they all had souls.
7
posted on
02/15/2009 5:12:08 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
To: Velveeta
They have both been towed in, two Captains are looking for new jobs.
8
posted on
02/15/2009 5:12:40 PM PST
by
Venturer
To: omega4179
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:12:43 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
To: Velveeta
We got any out there or has bambe recalled them all?
10
posted on
02/15/2009 5:13:29 PM PST
by
Evil Slayer
(Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
To: Velveeta
This is horrible. Godspeed to all hands.
I don’t know what this is a greater testimony of, the inadequate sonar/radar systems of both subs for detecting other vessels in the area or the incredible stealth characteristics of both subs.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:13:51 PM PST
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
To: TCats
boomer “chicken” out there maybe. wait, one was a frenchy, never mind.
To: Velveeta
The English sub was driving on the wrong side of the ocean again.
To: Velveeta
To: Velveeta
There’s a lot more to this story than we’l ever know.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:14:19 PM PST
by
blam
To: Velveeta
We saw recently an article about two satellites colliding, I wonder which of these two events was meant to minimize the other.
16
posted on
02/15/2009 5:14:35 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: elcid1970
Evidently and fortunately, there were no injuries.
17
posted on
02/15/2009 5:14:53 PM PST
by
Velveeta
To: Velveeta
If the article is to be credited, this amounts to 25% of the UK’s nuclear deterrent, since I presume that any remaining land-based missiles could probably be taken out. I confess that I haven’t kept up with the nuclear deterrant question for several decades, so I don’t know that for sure.
“Vanguard is one of Britains four V-Class subs forming our Trident nuclear deterrent. Each is armed with 16 ballistic missiles.”
If this really was in mid-Atlantic, it’s an extraordinary thing to have happened.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:15:06 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: JoeProBono
Yeesh - that’s a powerful load.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:15:27 PM PST
by
Velveeta
To: blam
To: Velveeta
'But modern anti-sonar technology is so good it is possible neither boat saw the other.'But since neither country is currently involved in a shooting war, don't ya think it would be a good idea to hit the 'off' switch on that shit? Or at least honk your horn?

21
posted on
02/15/2009 5:15:51 PM PST
by
Viking2002
(The Occupation has begun. God help America.)
To: Venturer
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:16:01 PM PST
by
Velveeta
To: blam
Get Jack Bauer on the case, immediately.
23
posted on
02/15/2009 5:16:45 PM PST
by
Evil Slayer
(Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
To: Velveeta
I never got around to posting this,could be connected. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4547649/French-fighter-planes-grounded-by-computer-virus.html French fighter planes grounded by computer virus.. The French newspaper Ouest France said the virus had hit the internal computer network at the French Navy. Jérome Erulin, French navy spokesman told the paper: "It affected exchanges of information but no information was lost. It was a security problem we had already simulated. We cut the communication links that could have transmitted the virus and 99 per cent of the network is safe." However, the French navy admitted that during the time it took to eradicate the virus, it had to return to more traditional forms of communication: telephone, fax and post.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:17:19 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
To: Enterprise
I really don't see this as a “comedy” thread. What is with all the jokes and the “LOLs!”
Some decent and brave men may be injured, maimed, or dying.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:18:01 PM PST
by
SkyPilot
To: Viking2002
“One if by land. Two if by sea”
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:18:43 PM PST
by
Evil Slayer
(Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
To: omega4179
Or,
HMS BENDOVERFOR ISLAM beheaded the French sub Laisse Faire.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:19:37 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: GSP.FAN
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:19:41 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
To: Velveeta
The naval source said: Crashing a nuclear submarine is as serious as it gets. Oh really ?
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:20:22 PM PST
by
Timocrat
To: Viking2002
Is it possible that they were being environmentally sensitive and not using their best sonar to avoid offending the sea people.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:20:47 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
To: Velveeta
Don’t they drive on different sides of the road?
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:21:10 PM PST
by
Nuc1
(NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
To: blam
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:22:56 PM PST
by
Velveeta
To: SkyPilot
33
posted on
02/15/2009 5:23:20 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
To: Velveeta
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:23:28 PM PST
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
To: Velveeta
Maybe they should have thought about it.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:23:40 PM PST
by
ThomasThomas
( Accept it, there is no except after in math.)
To: elcid1970
All survived.
Suggestion is that the anti sonar technology hid them from each other.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:24:13 PM PST
by
Carley
(President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
To: SkyPilot
Just to set your mind at rest - no serious injuries. But I agree the jokes are a bit much.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:25:16 PM PST
by
naturalman1975
("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
To: SkyPilot
All hands have been reported safe (in one reply). The captains’ careers may not survive.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:25:27 PM PST
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
To: bobby.223
Frenchies play chicken all the time but it isn ot the same chicken we are used to.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:25:57 PM PST
by
arthurus
( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
To: JoeProBono
Those near-deck mounted canards really make that thing look very ominous and beastly.
To: Enterprise
“How many souls on board?” I believe they all had souls.
Reminds me of the corny joke Gramps used on us kids every time he drove us by a cemetery. He’d say “Hey kids, how many dead in that cemetery?” after we’d start estimating the count of headstones he’d say “ALL of them!”.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:27:06 PM PST
by
TheConservativeParty
(Democrats are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.)
To: Nuc1
No, the Brits are on the wrong side, right?
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:27:13 PM PST
by
Euker
To: elcid1970
I thought the same thing. Down in the very last paragraph they say they did NOT lose the subs or the crews. It’s a “what if”. Geez. Leave it to the Brits to be cryptic.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:27:35 PM PST
by
athelass
(Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Regular Americans, we're on our own now. Push back the hordes!)
To: Velveeta
Never heard of the 24 on the Ohio class?
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:27:37 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: GSP.FAN
So they were watching pr0n?
To: SkyPilot
Based upon the writeup I doubt there were any serious injuries if any at all.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:27:43 PM PST
by
Nuc1
(NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
To: SkyPilot
Right, but it happened two weeks ago.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:28:30 PM PST
by
csmusaret
(You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
To: Carley
"Suggestion is that the anti sonar technology hid them from each other."You mean it wasn't sonar failure caused by GLOBAL WARMING? Just wait a few days; everything bad is caused by Global Warming.
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:28:34 PM PST
by
LZ_Bayonet
(There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
To: Velveeta
“could have sunk or released deadly radioactivity, it emerged last night.”
This is really a poor choice of words...
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posted on
02/15/2009 5:28:56 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: cripplecreek
"Is it possible that they were being environmentally sensitive and not using their best sonar to avoid offending the sea people." I think a more likely scenario was that the Brits were hammered and the French were fornicating with themselves - sorry all Brits.
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