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Ancient Virus Gave Wasps Their Sting
ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 12 February 2009 | Rachel Zelkowitz

Posted on 02/15/2009 8:07:15 PM PST by neverdem

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Viral DNA delivers wasp's sting

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1 posted on 02/15/2009 8:07:15 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Is this how some of Europe’s descendants are immune from the Plague (viral, not bacterial. I think there were several different “Plagues”)


2 posted on 02/15/2009 8:12:10 PM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: autumnraine

I’m still not sure how but somehow this has got to be Bush’s fault.
Thankfully, Ø-bama will fix this, possibly in the next stimulus bill.


3 posted on 02/15/2009 8:26:14 PM PST by Larry381 (Politicians are like diapers - they should be changed frequently, and then shot!)
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To: neverdem; MountainFlower; EternalVigilance; narses; Jim Robinson; DirtyHarryY2K; Milhous; ...
wasp species lay their eggs inside caterpillars, injecting toxins that paralyze the hosts and allow their young to feast on the innards with impunity.

WASP Margaret Sanger was White and has stung millions of Black babies--Planned Parenthood feasts on the graves of infants and makes merchandise of them in stem cells with impunity... the term "Brood Parasites" also describe the heterohaters, sounds like those groups have the morals of insects. God, please change their hearts and bring them to repentance.
4 posted on 02/15/2009 8:26:15 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: neverdem

Fascinating, that viruses can integrate into a species’ genetic code. There’s probably examples of this in a lot of other species as well. It may be that viruses are our best friend as well as our most dangerous enemies.


5 posted on 02/15/2009 8:42:23 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: autumnraine

A number of families whose ancestors survived the Black Plague were found to have gene which had a 32 kilobase pair deletion for the CCR5 receptor, IIRC.

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22black+plague%22+ccr5&fr=slv8-adbe&u=www.as.ua.edu/ant/bindon/ant475/Papers/Kampis.pdf&w=%22black+plague%22+ccr5&d=RzTWQQ-YSNn0&icp=1&.intl=us


6 posted on 02/15/2009 8:43:02 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

BEFORE they got “infected,” how did the wasps lay their eggs?

Happy Birthday, Darwin!


7 posted on 02/15/2009 9:03:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ummm, the same way they lay them now. They just had a lower survival rate. Of course the caterpillars’ defenses probably hadn’t developed as much yet either.


8 posted on 02/15/2009 9:24:02 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: TheThinker

Could explain evolution better than Darwin does...


9 posted on 02/15/2009 9:51:46 PM PST by willyd (My Driver's License is under Obama's Birth Certificate officer.)
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To: wagglebee

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10 posted on 02/15/2009 9:52:33 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Yikes! What a way to die: Paralyzed and eaten from the inside out! Let’s hope no large super-intelligent wasps on some other planet take humans for prey. Stuff of nightmares!


11 posted on 02/15/2009 10:23:11 PM PST by pankot
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To: willyd

Transposable genetic elements incorporated into viruses have long been known to possess the ability to insert genetic sequences coding for new protiens into the chromosomes of host cells. This can be good or bad of course and it seems to me to be just another potential tool by which mutations can occur within a species of plant or animal.


12 posted on 02/15/2009 10:40:53 PM PST by RC one
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To: neverdem

Thanks neverdem! I knew I had read that somewhere before and even that they think AIDS is a distant cousin to the Plague and someone said “The plague is a bacteria” and I remember reading that only ONE of the plagues were bacterial, some were viral which is why they spread so quickly.

But Europeans (European Americans) didn’t seems to die as quickly and some were even immune to AIDS compared to those in Africa and Arabia and I think they thought it had something to do with that built up immunity in our DNA which is ASTONISHING to me. That we could have an IMMUNITY to a virus worked into our genetic code. How brilliant this world is sometimes!


14 posted on 02/16/2009 4:09:57 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: Dan7878787

“perhaps it expands upon and improves it instead.”

probably more correct. It is an interesting notion that genetic code could be transferred via virus and would go a long way towards explaining the lack of transitional fossils since genetic sequences that “took” could produce radically different phenotypes much more rapidly (it would seem).


15 posted on 02/16/2009 7:22:13 AM PST by willyd (My Driver's License is under Obama's Birth Certificate officer.)
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To: autumnraine

What is even more amazing is all those people that figure that it all happened by the god of chance.


16 posted on 02/16/2009 9:07:24 AM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: LuxMaker

“chance” has never been that kind to me.


17 posted on 02/16/2009 9:20:20 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: neverdem
If bees went from no-stinger to stinger, it was doubtful it was because of a virus. More likely delinquent snot-nosed cave kids with poking sticks and fist full of rocks that gave them the need for a defensive weapon.
18 posted on 02/16/2009 9:32:35 AM PST by NavyCanDo (You think you have enough guns, until the Zombies come.)
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Drug banishes bad memories - Take pill, remember fear, remove fear.

Are Wild Chimpanzees Dying from AIDS?

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19 posted on 02/16/2009 9:47:43 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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20 posted on 02/16/2009 9:51:52 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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