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To: Uncle Miltie
Insurance is backed by an insurance guarantee fund state by state. Some states go up to 300,000, so you can have more than one policy. In Cal they have a reinsurance program which allows other companies to take over policies.

Vanguard is as good as you can get in the market as far as I remember from my Bob Brinker info.

Well you just accused me and my wife and three major insurance companies of being a frauds. And our education and planning process of being too complex for you to understand. No wonder you're building your retirement on the stock market. I guess we must have some geniuses for clients.

Should I just leave before the feds knock on the door?

I used to be like you until I did my research and found something safer with a better rate of return and more liquid.

I should have read your last statement first. No use wasting time, if you don't want to know the answer to tour questions and accusations. Good luck.

41 posted on 02/16/2009 10:13:07 AM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed
"Well you just accused me and my wife and three major insurance companies of being a frauds."

If the shoe fits....just kidding. More on this below.

"In Cal they have a reinsurance program which allows other companies to take over policies."

So I'm supposed to find that inserting the State of California into my financial transactions comforting? No thanks.

"And our education and planning process of being too complex for you to understand."

Yes. I'm a CMC Econ Cum Laude grad, and can hold my own with most MAs and some PhDs in Econ. I've read the WSJ every day for 25 years. I still have no idea what most insurance people are saying. Insurance wrapped around investments is too complex for me. Therefore, most normal people, I believe, are duped into Insurance. That's not to say that a really great Financial Advisor couldn't understand it and guide people into proper vehicles. I'm just saying that virtually all the people so invested have no idea what they've been put into. Might be smart, might be stupid, but they have no idea. While that may not constitute fraud, it is really not a very nice thing to do to people.

Folks may need to insure against certain risks. Fine. Term Life is a good example of simple insuring against risk. Homeowners insurance. Straight and clean.

Separately, investments in straight and clean low cost index Mutual Funds (or ETFs for newcomers) is the prime way to invest in stock markets. Buying CDs, MMFs, and cash in bank is a simple, straightforward way of managing short cash. Individual Bonds, or Bond Funds are a simple, straightforward way of getting bond dampening of stock risk. Owning some ounces of gold or silver gets you exposure and a hedge against inflation.

Each of these classes of things are simplest to address directly. A key problem with insurance is that it wraps so many concepts into one vehicle that you can't disentagle the pure play versus the alternate component (risk mitigation, for example). By the time you have multiple components, it is also extremely easy to bury a poor performing asset, a costly structure, or more risk than the person wants or needs.

I don't have a problem with insurance. People should insure against risk. But I don't ask my banker to manage my stock investments. I don't ask Vanguard to carry my insurance. I don't ask my Gold Broker to hold my cash. I don't ask my grocer to provide me with a haircut.

44 posted on 02/16/2009 10:39:17 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon youÂ’re talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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