[Nathan Zachary]

"In short, the boys begin to realize that justice and happiness in a community rests upon the moral condition of its citizens...Adeimantus comes to discover a dark and ominous secret: without proper moral conditioning a regime's "defining principle" will be the source of its ultimate destruction. "

And that is exactly what has happened to the USA, all of western society actually. Scarier still, is that vaccums do not stay vaccums for long. Islam is fast filling that void.

[jtom36]

Socrates warned: extreme freedom will instill a paranoia about any kind of "master" including objective measurements of right and wrong, ---
"In short, the boys begin to realize that justice and happiness in a community rests upon the moral condition of its citizens...
Adeimantus comes to discover a dark and ominous secret: without proper moral conditioning a regime's "defining principle" will be the source of its ultimate destruction. "

Our 'defining principles' can only be taught in a 'basic training' type school. -- Every 18 year old should be required to attend a constitutional boot camp before they are franchised to vote. --
-- No service, - No vote.

[CowboyJay]

Scarier still, is that vaccums do not stay vaccums for long.

Amen. The fatal flaw in the libertarian philosiphy. What happens when the CCP, drug-traffickers, and caliphs fill that vacuum? (rhetorical question, and I REALLY don't want to know the answer).