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Heroes are born not made, scientists claim (Neurology)
Telegraph ^ | 16 Feb 2009 | Richard Alleyne

Posted on 02/16/2009 11:22:26 AM PST by GOPGuide

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"There are some individuals who when confronted with extreme stress their hormone profile is rather unique," he said.

"It doesn't reach the same peak as the rest of us. So we're all ready to scream in our chairs, but there are certain individuals who just don't get as stressed.

"Their stress hormones are lower and the peptides that down-regulate that stress are higher, so you can see in action the hormonal regular system really hitting overdrive.

"Certain people are cooler under pressure and they perform very, very well during these periods of time."

Professor Aikins, who outlined his findings at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting, studied hormone stress levels during extreme training exercises like mock survival or combat swimming.

He said that while there was no such thing as a "man without fear" certain people were better equipped to deal with it.

"I think they were born with it," he said. "We started figuring out we can start predicting who are these individuals who are going to have this cooler hormonal profile under high stress."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: neurology
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1 posted on 02/16/2009 11:22:27 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

So Donovan McNabb was just born a choker?


2 posted on 02/16/2009 11:25:17 AM PST by exist
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To: GOPGuide

Combat swimming??? What’s that?


3 posted on 02/16/2009 11:26:44 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: GOPGuide

“Certain people are cooler under pressure and they perform very, very well during these periods of time.”

I wonder if Marines test for this particular trait? ;^)


4 posted on 02/16/2009 11:28:04 AM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Combat swimming??? What’s that?

www.usawaterpolo.org

5 posted on 02/16/2009 11:28:25 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: GOPGuide
Sure, there are people that react naturally to stress in a very mild manner. That's not even necessarily an indication that they're heroic; just lemmings.

Your best heroes are ones that are trained into it.

6 posted on 02/16/2009 11:31:10 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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To: GOPGuide
Heroes are born not made, scientists claim

Exhibit A for the defense:


7 posted on 02/16/2009 11:32:10 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: saganite
I wonder if Marines test for this particular trait? ;^) They will as we understand more about how people react under stress.
8 posted on 02/16/2009 11:33:41 AM PST by GOPGuide
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If that were the case, then over the last 50 years we should have a TON of heros here. Abortions are gotten by people who are not willing to accept responsibility for their actions no matter how difficult, ie, not heroic.Without the heroic reproducing, there should only be those with heroic genes reproducing. How does this square?

Heros are made, not born.......


9 posted on 02/16/2009 11:38:01 AM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: GOPGuide

I call bogus. My husband is the calm type and while he would, could and has done heroic things, he doesn’t have the time to recognize the emergency until I’ve already handled the situation.

In most cases, he would have handled it better because he thinks first acts second while I act first and think later but sometimes time isn’t an option.


10 posted on 02/16/2009 11:38:58 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: wombtotomb

That should read without the NON heroic. I know, I know, read twice, post once. Mea Culpa


11 posted on 02/16/2009 11:39:11 AM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: GOPGuide

“He said that while there was no such thing as a “man without fear” certain people were better equipped to deal with it.”

Hal Jordan and Matt Murdock beg to differ.


12 posted on 02/16/2009 11:41:09 AM PST by Jeb21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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13 posted on 02/16/2009 11:47:26 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Caution: Middle-aged man with KoRn on MP3 player and power saw.)
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To: wombtotomb

“If that were the case, then over the last 50 years we should have a TON of heros here. Abortions are gotten by people who are not willing to accept responsibility for their actions no matter how difficult, ie, not heroic.Without the heroic reproducing, there should only be those with heroic genes reproducing. How does this square?”

I’ve not analyzed this, but my guess is that abortion affects TIMING rather than number of births. That is, I think your assumption that the non-heroic are not reproducing is wrong. Likewise, unless the “heroic” upped their reproductive rates to compensate for the loss of births among the non-heroic, the absolute number of heroes should simply rise with population (although they would constitute a larger % of whatever births occurred).

As with most nature-nurture stuff, I doubt it’s black and white in either direction. I don’t doubt there’s a genetic component, but if being cool under fire were culturally despised, my guess is that even the cool-headed types could be trained to act hysterical. So genetic propensities can be amplified or dissipated depending on how one’s family, friends or society in general react to that genetic predisposition etc. Society obviously can’t make a high IQ person dumb, but it certainly can send strong signals that inhibit high IQ individuals from either displaying or making use of their gifts. I would argue the same is true of “heroic” behavior.


14 posted on 02/16/2009 12:10:41 PM PST by DrC
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To: Steel Wolf

Sure, there are people that react naturally to stress in a very mild manner. That’s not even necessarily an indication that they’re heroic; just lemmings.

Your best heroes are ones that are trained into it.
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Excellent, Mr. Wolf!

IMO, the article sounds like another masked elitist rationale for population “control”/genetic tinkering, etc.


15 posted on 02/16/2009 12:17:54 PM PST by Yooper4Life (47% voted against him, and millions stayed home.)
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To: GOPGuide

“Few men are born brave. Many become so through training and force of discipline.”
- Flavius Vegetius

(From an earlier time, when men would stand fast and do their duty even without “professional help”.)


16 posted on 02/16/2009 12:29:40 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: GOPGuide

Personally I think a lot of folks who join the Marines preselect themselves because they have those traits and know it.


17 posted on 02/16/2009 12:32:52 PM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: saganite
"I wonder if Marines test for this particular trait? ;^) "

Well, let's see..it's been 57 years since boot camp.

But.... I seem to remember that you put 2 jarheads in a foxhole...throw in a grenade...and see who either grabs it and throws it out first... or who jumps on it first....{:-)

18 posted on 02/16/2009 1:18:48 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

hell week at coronado.


19 posted on 02/16/2009 2:05:53 PM PST by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: GOPGuide

Psychopaths have a deadened sense of fear but that doesn’t make them heroes.


20 posted on 02/16/2009 2:23:08 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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