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At the risk of having my tin-foil hat blown off, since the election, the obvious moves by the Democrats and the lunatic left to permanently grab power via controlling the census results, huge sums of money to Acorn, the attempts to bring back an even stronger version of the fairness doctrine, etc. and the fact that the recession largely started with Democratic pressure on Fannie May, Freddie Mac and the banks to give more loans to the disadvantaged (a moronic idea at best) does seem like a plan take over our society with socialism to me!
1 posted on 02/16/2009 11:58:22 AM PST by Stayfree
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To: Stayfree

Clear logic doesn’t bespeak a tinfoil hat... Sounds to me like you are right on the mark.


2 posted on 02/16/2009 11:59:51 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Stayfree

This “stimulus” package appears to be an attempt to gain permanent power of the United States by simply selling the country into slavery.


3 posted on 02/16/2009 12:01:38 PM PST by varmintman
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To: Stayfree

I’m donning my tinfoil hat too. It seems everything is too deliberate, too fast and it would seem to me that the goal is to tear us down to rebuild in the way they way. Socialism/Communism.

People need to remember, Obama was a MEMBER of the “Socialist Party” before he became a Democrat. So this at least WAS his affiliation at one time and once he noticed it wasn’t getting him anyway, he switched to the closest party.


4 posted on 02/16/2009 12:01:41 PM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: Stayfree

I’ve always said that the Cloward/Pivin Strategy explains the current insanity we see today.


5 posted on 02/16/2009 12:02:54 PM PST by Walmartian
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To: Stayfree

Everyone should have a ‘counter attack’ plan as to how to preserve your ‘wealth’ from the ‘progressives’.
I imagine a ‘Robin Hood’ group of CPA’s and Tax Attorneys that would help out.
My goal is to starve the ‘Beast’.


6 posted on 02/16/2009 12:04:16 PM PST by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: Stayfree

Click here... about 20 of them...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=Cloward%20Piven


7 posted on 02/16/2009 12:04:28 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Stayfree

And how about that September 15th run on money market funds to the tune of $550 billion in an hour or two?


8 posted on 02/16/2009 12:06:45 PM PST by Faith
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To: Stayfree

And this stuff surprises all of you why?


10 posted on 02/16/2009 12:14:27 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: Stayfree

“At the risk of having my tin-foil hat blown off,....”

That’s unfortunate that all too many are intimidated by the thought that it’s “Tin-foil” to think “conspiracy”.

Some “Conspiracies” are idiotic contrivances of borderline insanity, but Alynskism, and Cloward-Pivenism are very very real. Documented, and functioning systems that have been at work for considerable time, only recently tossing off the cloak to expose themselves.

Obama is a figurehead for that movement welcomed and endorsed by the CPUSA. Approximately 70 members of the House are members of the “Progressive Caucus” which is related.

We must all let our thoughts on the matter loose as it is reality. We mustn’t hide in fear of discussing what is real simply because it sounds like some nutcase conspiracy. Alynskism, and Cloward/Pivenism nutcase conspiracies are unfortunately very real.


11 posted on 02/16/2009 12:16:13 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Stayfree
Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

If Obama and the Democrats succeed such that the Federal Government essentially defaults, the radical political change won't be Socialist nirvana, but rather States individually or in groups seceding. It is perhaps to prevent this that Obama's need arises for an especially powerful, strong and well-funded Civilian National Security Force .

12 posted on 02/16/2009 12:22:41 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Stayfree

I’ve come to this same conclusion even before I heard about this Cloward/Piven strategy the other day.


13 posted on 02/16/2009 12:23:25 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Stayfree

Just think if supporters stopped Bush from screwing up, none of this would be happening.


14 posted on 02/16/2009 12:28:10 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Stayfree

I often think this was the Islamists end-game, ie, that internal dissension would destroy the nation after an attack the size and scope of 9/11. I suspect they knew the nation was deeply divided between weak liberalism and dying conservatism and the internal schism resulting from an attack would finish us off.


17 posted on 02/16/2009 12:47:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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