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To: BubbaBasher
How about a "You're not a conservative if"

Add to that these:

You ever granted amnesty to illegal aliens;

You ever "cut and run" our troops from a deployed area.

(This means that Ronald Reagan was a RINO, by FReeper standards, since he did both while in office).

16 posted on 02/16/2009 1:45:19 PM PST by Old Sarge (Obama Dozed, People Froze)
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To: Old Sarge

“(This means that Ronald Reagan was a RINO, by FReeper standards, since he did both while in office).”

Well, perhaps by Absolutist standards...I hope not otherwise...


20 posted on 02/16/2009 2:02:00 PM PST by jessduntno ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4)
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To: Old Sarge
Pulling out of Beirut was probably the biggest tactical error of the Reagan Administration. However, regarding the 1986 amnesty, let's review a little history, shall we?

1) The amnesty didn't apply indiscriminately to all illegals. Certain requirements (involving residence, health, and criminal history) had to be met.

2) It didn't automatically grant citizenship, green cards, or permanent residence to illegals. Instead, it gave them "admission for temporary residence."

3) It wasn't a freebie. The illegals were required to pay a fee for their temporary legalization.

4) The word "amnesty" actually doesn't appear anywhere in the law (a.k.a. the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, further a.k.a. the Simpson-Mazzoli Bill).

And, perhaps most importantly of all, Ronald the Original Nice Guy believed the Congressional Dems who promised (after holding up the bill until de facto amnesty was granted to the then 2 million or more resident illegals) that this would be a one-off deal -- never, ever to be repeated.

After the Hero of Chappaquiddick (author of the 1965 open-borders bill that started the whole ball rolling) watered down the enforcement part of the bill, which was aimed at employers of illegals and included securing the southern border, RWR was heard to speculate that signing the damned thing might have been a mistake. NSS.

27 posted on 02/16/2009 2:30:10 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one" -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Old Sarge
Pulling out of Beirut was probably the biggest tactical error of the Reagan Administration. However, regarding the 1986 amnesty, let's review a little history, shall we?

1) The amnesty didn't apply indiscriminately to all illegals. Certain requirements (involving residence, health, and criminal history) had to be met.

2) It didn't automatically grant citizenship, green cards, or permanent residence to illegals. Instead, it gave them "admission for temporary residence."

3) It wasn't a freebie. The illegals were required to pay a fee for their temporary legalization.

4) The word "amnesty" actually doesn't appear anywhere in the law (a.k.a. the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, further a.k.a. the Simpson-Mazzoli Bill).

And, perhaps most importantly of all, Ronald the Original Nice Guy believed the Congressional Dems who promised (after holding up the bill until de facto amnesty was granted to the then 2 million or more resident illegals) that this would be a one-off deal -- never, ever to be repeated.

After the Hero of Chappaquiddick (author of the 1965 open-borders bill that started the whole ball rolling) watered down the enforcement part of the bill, which was aimed at employers of illegals and included securing the southern border, RWR was heard to speculate that signing the damned thing might have been a mistake. NSS.

28 posted on 02/16/2009 2:33:30 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one" -- Edmund Burke)
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