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12-Year-Old Stuns Pro-Choice Teacher and School with Pro-Life Presentation (On YouTube)
LifeSiteNews ^ | Monday February 16, 2009 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 02/16/2009 1:37:16 PM PST by GonzoII

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To: Waryone
You are correct, I read too fast.

Your scenario sounds good!

81 posted on 02/16/2009 6:29:08 PM PST by Syncro (Ti Ming -- Use Librally)
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To: SkyDancer

I’ll let her in to my school!


82 posted on 02/16/2009 6:56:42 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: sit-rep
'Even though you can't see them or hear them at all,
A person 's a person, no matter how small.'
83 posted on 02/16/2009 7:14:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; All

God promised to raise up a new generation who would stand for Him. She is just the start of it. GO LIA! May God bless her, and protect her and the rest who take a stand!


84 posted on 02/16/2009 7:28:54 PM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: MountainFlower

Perhaps it is because they are so recently come from God’s presence, but the young know abortion is killing alive children and are not so easily persuaded that it is okay to ‘take away the right to life of another, to avoid responsibility.’ Sad that our poseur-in-chief cannot discern such a simple truth.


85 posted on 02/16/2009 7:31:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: GonzoII

bttt


86 posted on 02/16/2009 7:31:25 PM PST by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: MHGinTN

what you said!


87 posted on 02/16/2009 7:36:57 PM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: MrB
This one must have been one of those "pro-aborts" instead of a "had-abort". A "had-abort" would have not conceded their "right" in any way.

Kudos to you for raising this point. I don't often hear discussion of how women who have had abortions are almost obligated to fiercely defend the practice, lest they feel guilty for offing their own children. During the presidential campaign when I had to listen to female coworkers hysterically rail against Sarah Palin, I always silently wondered how many abortions they'd had. You disagree with Palin on the issues? Fine. You think she's dumb? Fine. You despise her with every bone in your body and wish she'd get hit by a bus? Ok...how many abortions have you had, exactly?

88 posted on 02/16/2009 7:44:56 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

Another question:
“If she had killed Trig and had her daughter kill her own baby, would she be OK in your eyes?”

Honestly, I had someone actually admit that the reason they hated her so much is that she knowingly gave birth to Trig.


89 posted on 02/17/2009 5:47:04 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: fabian

bump for a very bold young lady...


90 posted on 02/17/2009 10:14:05 PM PST by fabian
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To: MrB; Humble Servant; Junior_G

I’d love to see actual numbers on this, although it would be an extremely difficult statistic to compile for obvious reasons.

I agree with both - there are plenty of women who’ve had abortions who have swung way to the pro-life side - myself included, to be utterly frank - I am appalled by my decision at 18, which was immature but done with eyes wide open (I’ll explain why I had such clarity, why I believe almost all women do), and as a result, I wouldn’t have another abortion even if it meant saving my own life.

At the same time, there are plenty of women who are still rabidly in favor. We see this evidenced on a reasonably regular basis right here with posted articles authored by women who have a vehement but horribly skewed perspective of morality when it comes to abortion, some who actually seem to brag about their choices, clinging to the notion that their abortions have saved them tons of grief in life rather than the opposite.

From personal experience I believe that those women cling desperately to their viewpoint because they can’t bear to face what’s behind curtain number two, so much so that they keep it all stuffed way down in deep dark places they don’t ever visit, and distract themselves from it by yelling against it. These women are in psychological trouble, but it’s too emotionally dangerous to admit it.

As a woman I can speak to this, because despite the propaganda they’ve been force-fed for decades, women do know that the baby isn’t just a clump of tissue. They have an inherent knowledge of their child and a God-given desire to protect him. I knew my baby was a baby, but I shut my eyes to the reality of it in order to get through to the other side of the worst thing I’ve ever done in my life.

But that’s the thing - you never do really get through. Abortion traumatizes women because their very souls cry out against what society insists is perfectly acceptable. And do those years of pro-choice propaganda have an effect? Absolutely. While it doesn’t eliminate that inherent awareness, it allows women to put it aside.

Don’t misunderstand me - are these women responsible for their own decisions? Absolutely. Abortion trauma for the mother is self-inflicted. But she has accomplices, and they all have to answer one day to the One who gave them life. And if I wasn’t assured years ago of His very undeserved forgiveness, I frankly don’t know how I would get through the rest of my life, and might be in denial as many of these women still are.


91 posted on 02/18/2009 6:25:33 AM PST by agrace
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To: Calico Cat

Me too, Calico. :)


92 posted on 02/18/2009 6:26:56 AM PST by agrace
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To: agrace

I was so relieved to see that you “took it to the Cross”.
Indeed, He forgives, even when you don’t forgive yourself.

The lies of this world are inherently damaging, and those who don’t see the Spirit of Truth will never get over their trauma.

Indeed, it is “emotionally dangerous” for these women to address their guilt, especially when most have turned their back on the one Source of healing available to them.


93 posted on 02/18/2009 6:31:55 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GonzoII

bump for later!!


94 posted on 02/18/2009 6:33:21 AM PST by montesquieu
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To: agrace

Thanks for talking about this. I can only imagine how difficult it is. I worked for 4 years in psychiatric hospitals, and met at least 2 women that I know of who had serious depression issues years after an abortion. The worst part of it was that, for all the training we received about “validating” peoples’ feelings, the industry was so deeply mired in liberal dogma that we were not allowed to help them with any sense of remorse; only to reassure them that what they did was perfectly alright. These women were hurting deeply for their whole adult lives, and being told basically to shut up. There are no statistics that I know of on Post-Traumatic Stress (one of the great Liberal Shiboleths) for abortion; I believe the APA doesn’t want to sweep it under the rug; they want to bury it out in the woods under a big rock where no one will ever find it. I weep for the lost children, and weep for the women we have lied to.

Have you ever thought of establishing a group (or maybe there is one I’m not aware of) for people who’ve been through this for mutual support and / or activism? You (and a lot of other people) might be surprised at the numbers.


95 posted on 02/18/2009 9:42:20 AM PST by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: GonzoII

THis young lady had better not enroll in beginning sspeech at LACC. That nasty professor would censor her!

Excellent speech by a great speaker.


96 posted on 02/18/2009 7:42:55 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Humble Servant; agrace
Have you ever thought of establishing a group (or maybe there is one I’m not aware of) for people who’ve been through this for mutual support and / or activism? You (and a lot of other people) might be surprised at the numbers.

Is this the work that Project Rachel does?

97 posted on 02/18/2009 7:45:31 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://www.hopeafterabortion.com/hope.cfm?sel=A31Q

Yes, indeed! Thanks for the lead, it looks like a good organization, and I’ll keep it handy. God Bless.


98 posted on 02/18/2009 8:03:33 PM PST by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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