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Ranking of US Presidents [by biased historians]
C-Span ^ | February 16, 2009 | C-Span/ liberal historians

Posted on 02/16/2009 7:15:08 PM PST by lonestar67

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To: lonestar67
"Well now you get it don’t you."

Yes, Mr. Kissinger.

Screw you and your Globalist New World Order....

Better hurry with your North American Union, though. The People are onto your treasonous globalism and your deification of presidential puppets like Jorge W. Arbusto.

121 posted on 02/18/2009 2:42:31 PM PST by F16Fighter (Somebody wake me up when the Community Organizer has "healed the planet.")
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To: F16Fighter

I think it is time for you to get back to building your bunker.

Don’t make me send the black helicopters for you.


122 posted on 02/18/2009 2:58:44 PM PST by lonestar67 (Israel is not the enemy.)
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To: F16Fighter
The legality of State Secession will become more and more of a "debate" in the coming years as the Fedgov continues selectively destroying the Constitution, betraying the original compacts of States' joining the Union, and increasingly usurping States' Rights.

The legality of unilateral secession has been settled.

The Lincoln Republicans were determined to undermine Southern States' sovereignty anyway they could...

Like how?

War of Aggression needed as many excuses as possible to coerce the South into remaining within the Union.

And is this were we get into claims that Lincoln duped the South into firing on Sumter? The ever popular "We wuz too stoopid to see through Linkum's trap" defense?

A protective tariff was then a substantial benefit to Northern manufacturing states, but meant considerable economic hardship for the agricultural South. Is this a legitimate beef? The South thought so.

It might be, if true. First you would have to point out how was it a considerable economic hardship to the South? Tariffs were applied equally and the Northern consumer paid the same inflated price for a protected good that a Southern consumer would. Prior to the rebellion the South seems to have consumed very few imports. Where was the hardship?

Let's be honest; The Fedgov "own" the very ground our homes are built upon. What's to stop mine or your home or property from being confiscated via Emminent Domain? Or because the Darter Snail makes it's home on MY 200 acres? And what of the current taxation without representation? The difference in Sumters case was that it was built on land deeded to the federal government free and clear by act of the South Carolina legislature. They had no legal claim to it whatsoever.

Lincoln's Northern aggression less and less subtle and stealth until the South knew what was coming down the pike.

And how did this manifest itself?

The North baited the South with respect to Fort Sumner; That gave the Union the "moral high ground" to begin enforcing its will upon the South and violating the original accords between the states and the Union.

Lincoln merely insisted on retaining posession of that which belonged to the U.S. Where is that bating?

One presumes it's duly elected Representatives and consensus of The People. Quaint, ain't it? Too bad it STILL doesn't work that way.

Read the question. If the duly elected Representatives and the consensus of the People of South Carolina is that the compact has been violated, and if the duly elected Representatives and the consensus of the people in the rest of the U.S. is that it isn't then what makes South Carolina right and everyone else wrong?

123 posted on 02/18/2009 3:10:06 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: lonestar67
"I think it is time for you to get back to building your bunker."

I'm sure there's plenty of room at the great Arbusto's Paraguayan compound.

Btw, do you think Dubya's up to running a Lemonade Stand now that his "job" as globalist Bumbler-in-Chief is over?

"Don’t make me send the black helicopters for you."

It wouldn't be as weird as THIS unlikely, yet cozy little get-together and "secret" pinky-tap of fellow Globalists:

That's a good one for your desk, don't you think?

124 posted on 02/18/2009 3:27:18 PM PST by F16Fighter (Somebody wake me up when the Community Organizer has "healed the planet.")
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To: F16Fighter

I am sure W will have nothing better to do than keep tabs on you.

After all, your scathing insights into how the World really works are quite the threat to the Global cabal.

Hopefully your insights can be limited to the few faithful that continue to monitor this thread. Otherwise, the entire globalist house of cards might collapse.


125 posted on 02/18/2009 3:31:36 PM PST by lonestar67 (Israel is not the enemy.)
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