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Ex-VP Dick Cheney outraged President Bush didn't grant 'Scooter' Libby full pardon
New York Daily News ^
| February 17, 2009
| Thomas M. DeFrank
Posted on 02/17/2009 7:03:52 AM PST by Arec Barrwin
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To: Right Cal Gal
IIRC, there was a failure to disclose media connections by one of the jurors, but since I dont have the hard facts, Ill leave to fellow Freepers with better memories. One of the jurors was Tim Russert's neighbor and knew him socially.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:39:52 AM PST
by
Ditto
To: nyconse
Thomas M. DeFrank is a HardBall regular with Chris Mathews, was constantly bashing Bush & Cheney. I would NEVER believe whatever this guy writes about anyone.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:40:00 AM PST
by
anita
To: anita
This may be true...but why would Libby not want a pardon? Bush should have pardoned him.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:40:47 AM PST
by
nyconse
To: Arec Barrwin
To: Buck W.
If he did not want one, it makes no sense that Chaney wanted the pardon. To me, this just like the border agent travesty a Bush failure. No pardon for Libby or the border agents who were just doing their jobs? I cannot wait for the dems to begin asking Bush some questions now either. I cannot wait to have him fumbling over his words and have a perjury charge dredged up for him to battle. If he thinks the zero is going to help him out, forget it. What goes around comes around I feel. Yeah he did great on the terror war and tax cuts but he was forced to make a good supreme court nominee, came up with a trillion dollar give away: the Medicare drug program, never objected to ridicules spending by the GOP, pushed for amnesty for illegals and supported RINOs like Spector.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:43:40 AM PST
by
Mouton
To: listenhillary
It was a manufactured Democratic operative scandal.The Democrats wanted to keep the focus on anyone other than Joseph Wilson, Valerie Plame and the shadow government.
To: nyconse
You’re right about the border agents, but I also heard it about Libby at the same time that his sentence was commuted. The question was asked at the time—why not a full pardon? That was the answer that was put forth. Again, who knows?
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:44:12 AM PST
by
Buck W.
(BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
To: Arec Barrwin
I’m with Cheney on this one too.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:44:27 AM PST
by
Tribune7
(Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
To: Right Cal Gal
That is right. A pardon leaves doubt forever and closes the door for a win on appeal which would clear the record completely.
The effect is the same, he is not in jail, but with the commutation he can still fight to truly clear his record.
Bush actually did right and God knows I love Chaney but Scooter needs to be allowed to clear his name via the courts. It will remove the asterisk from his name in the history books
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:44:51 AM PST
by
ejonesie22
(Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
To: SharpTalons
Problem is that Libby committed perjury. The same garbage Clinton did. Conservatives cant pick and choose when one of their own breaks the law.Your talons may be sharp but your brain is DU-LL.
To compare Klintoon's actions to Libby's is to compare a nuclear weapon with an M-80.
Richard Armitage was the leaker, no crime was committed because the bitch was not covert, and fitzy knowing this early on, continued his witch hunt to smear the Bush administration.
With klintoon the FBI had DNA PROOF, with Libby, firtzy had the potato-head with his version.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:46:15 AM PST
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
To: SharpTalons
Problem is that Libby committed perjuryWhat was it he perjured himself on? Listening to the case, it appears he had a different recollection than Tim Russert about a conversation they had. for all the smoke produced by the prosecutor, it appears that was his case.
You want him to lose his life for that? How is that the same as Clinton?
I would love to hear what it was he did to earn his perjury conviction, if there is more, please enlighten me if you can. And be specific.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:48:29 AM PST
by
Lakeshark
(Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
To: Arec Barrwin
All the qualities of a dog except loyalty.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:51:07 AM PST
by
atomic_dog
(No matter how obvious my sarcasm is, my post will be taken seriously by someone here on FR.)
To: SharpTalons
Are you clueless and know nothing about the case ? There was no perjury. Dumb ass/ New tone Bush demanded his staff talk to Dem operative/ reported gay activist Fitz without legal counsel and set them up for an obvious perjury trap scam ! Then Bush hater Fitz who was appointed by a fellow Dem party operative left over from the Clinton regime intentionally puts a Bush Repub in front of a DC jury made of Blacks and a former Wash Compost reporters and maneuvers to get a very left wing Dem judge. I think any Repub in front of a DC court will get convicted of something period ! Its the oldest trick in the book , a perjury trappped and a stacked jury. The only person that actually committed perjury was
the now deceased Tim Russert who testimony in court conflicted with his statements made in the press and reportedly in front of the grand jury !
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:52:38 AM PST
by
ncalburt
(Read all about)
To: Dixie Yooper
And all this time, everyone thought Cheney was pulling the stings with this administration...I believe Cheney had a good deal of input during the first administration;
However all the failures of the second administration were bush's alone.
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:54:10 AM PST
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: USS Alaska
It was an act of perjury. Plain and simple. Why are we running around in circles trying to play moral relativisim tag with his offense? Thats what libs do. You think I belive that such an accomplished lawyer and well-connected administration confidant like Scooter Libby, discovered Valerie Plame’s CIA status though Tim Russert? Really? Sounds abit far-fetched?
To: Arec Barrwin
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posted on
02/17/2009 7:55:34 AM PST
by
libbylu
(Sarah - the light of the midnight sun)
To: SharpTalons
To: SharpTalons
Libby did not “lie under oath.” After who knows how many rounds of questioning and questions being asked in different ways, two of his answers were different. It is the pure, nonsensical creation of a criminal offense by a prosecutor looking for some way to make his job seem legitimate. He had his “culprit” before any of the investigation began. The fact that Bush did not grant a full pardon to Libby is disgraceful. Inexcusable. But then 8 years of the “lesser of evils” occupying the White House resulted in exactly 3 good things: tax cuts, the war in Iraq being prosecuted and two strong constructionists elevated to the Supreme Court. (Of course Bush had to be forced into the nominations of Roberts and Alito.)
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posted on
02/17/2009 8:16:29 AM PST
by
Oldpuppymax
(AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
To: SharpTalons
The problem was that Libby gave Fitzgerald & the Grand Jury too much cooperation. Perjury traps are an easy thing for an ambitious prosecuter to get somebody on when they have an otherwise ‘weak’ or ‘complicated’ case to make.
Fitz will probably nail a couple of Obama people with the same gambit.
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posted on
02/17/2009 8:24:20 AM PST
by
Tallguy
("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
To: Buck W.
...but I also heard it about Libby at the same time that his sentence was commuted. The question was asked at the timewhy not a full pardon? That was the answer that was put forth. This is exactly the way I remember it. At the time of the commutation, Libby was still in the appeals process.
IIRC, it was sometime later that Libby dropped the appeal due to finances. This could be why VP Cheney now wanted the pardon.
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posted on
02/17/2009 10:00:32 AM PST
by
Just A Nobody
(I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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