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Ex-VP Dick Cheney outraged President Bush didn't grant 'Scooter' Libby full pardon
New York Daily News ^ | February 17, 2009 | Thomas M. DeFrank

Posted on 02/17/2009 7:03:52 AM PST by Arec Barrwin

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To: USS Alaska
no crime was committed because the bitch was not covert

EXACTLY! The entire circus should have been stopped...or never begun. It cost the taxpayer's over 2 million bucks, IIRC.

61 posted on 02/17/2009 10:03:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Where's your precious Bush now, Bushbots? Where's your Moses, now?"

62 posted on 02/17/2009 10:41:30 AM PST by meandog (Be sure to thank the Bushes: They are to blame for Bill and Barack!)
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To: anita
Thomas M. DeFrank is a HardBall regular with Chris Mathews, was constantly bashing Bush & Cheney

The most sensible comment on this thread. Yet people here still continue to believe "anonymous sources" cited even though the author is a rabid Repub hater.

Truth is, the MSM is even now trying to divide Cheney and Bush because they know they are a threat to Obama as he starts to look like a goof.

I wish Freepers wouldn't fall for MSM tricks so OFTEN!!

63 posted on 02/17/2009 10:53:53 AM PST by what's up
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To: Arec Barrwin
Amen! I don't know why Bush did not do it. The case against Libby was BS to begin with and it is not as though Bush has any reputation left to preserve, not to mention Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean who should also have been pardoned.
64 posted on 02/17/2009 11:22:01 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: what's up
In this case the outrage is probably true.

Rove: Cheney's fight 'overblown'

Cheney Speaks Out on Libby

"..Former Vice President Dick Cheney disagreed publicly with his boss just four times in the eight years they served together. Yesterday, however, on the first day after the official end of the Bush administration, Cheney disagreed with George W. Bush once more.

Cheney told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that his former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, whom he described as a "victim of a serious miscarriage of justice," deserved a presidential pardon.

Asked for his reaction to Bush's decision Cheney said: "Scooter Libby is one of the most capable and honorable men I've ever known. He's been an outstanding public servant throughout his career. He was the victim of a serious miscarriage of justice, and I strongly believe that he deserved a presidential pardon. Obviously, I disagree with President Bush's decision.".."

Rove would minimize any apparent conflict between Bush and Cheney but this issue is a rare public disagreement between the two. Cheney is very likely POed.

65 posted on 02/17/2009 12:40:32 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Sure, Cheney disagreed.

But "outrage"? "Fury"?

I highly doubt it. Although Matthews and his minions would love to make people (especially conservatives like Freepers) believe it.

66 posted on 02/17/2009 12:44:47 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

I buy it because it is more likely. Cheney would not disagree
with Bush in public unless it was a very serious issue to him.
He would not react in public in a hostile and emotional way but the emotions are certainly there.


67 posted on 02/17/2009 12:53:34 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
but the emotions are certainly there

"Certainly"?

If you are a psychic or were a fly on the wall you may be able to claim this. Otherwise, it's pure conjecture.

The important thing is that Bush-Cheney were united for most of what was important.

The MSM will pick at the minority and try to get conservatives in on the gossip.

68 posted on 02/17/2009 1:09:15 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Pure conjecture! The hell it is.

"..He was the victim of a serious miscarriage of justice, and I strongly believe that he deserved a presidential pardon. Obviously, I disagree with President Bush's decision.."

That is a direct quote and for public consumption. That is one of four total instances of public disagreement in eight years. Cheney views Libby as a loyal subordinate who got the shaft.

69 posted on 02/17/2009 1:16:04 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Scooter can't vote now

I'm a convicted felon and I had my voting rights restored. Plus these guys are all connected. He's probably got more job offers than he can handle. I'm sure he'll be just fine.
70 posted on 02/17/2009 1:17:37 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Arec Barrwin

He should have been pardoned before the fact and Fitzass should have been dressed down proper and told to go round up real criminals. Bush was a wimp in a lot of ways. Too liberal by half.


71 posted on 02/17/2009 1:24:14 PM PST by calex59
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

Not to be vicious but I bet you actually broke the law, unlike Libby who didn’t.


72 posted on 02/17/2009 1:25:41 PM PST by calex59
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To: Anti-Bubba182
That is a direct quote and for public consumption. That is one of four total instances of public disagreement in eight years. Cheney views Libby as a loyal subordinate who got the shaft.

Obviously we had the wrong man as President, Cheney should have had the top spot and wimp boy should have been VP.

73 posted on 02/17/2009 1:27:01 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59
Not to be vicious but I bet you actually broke the law

I certainly did break the law, but that's not the point I was arguing. The point is that he WILL be able to vote and he WILL have no problem getting work.
74 posted on 02/17/2009 1:30:04 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Arec Barrwin

What ever happened to the Bush is Cheney’s puppet deal?


75 posted on 02/17/2009 1:32:20 PM PST by woofie
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Stronly believe" is different from words like "rage", etc.

Obviously, Cheney wanted Libby to have full pardon.

My point is...beware.

The MSM will use words like "fury" to make conservatives think Cheney was more divided overall from Bush than he was. In reality, they were like-minded on a huge range of issues.

So they disagreed on a few issues. Move on. The MSM doesn't want you to.

76 posted on 02/17/2009 1:49:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: xzins
What about the Haditha sacrifical lambs: Chessani and Wuterich. It’s a violation of the gravest order that the commander in chief would stand by while these men are being persecuted.

Agreed. Inexcusable.

Libby and the rest of them played games and got burned. Bush never had the spine to simply stand up and say, "It has come to our attention that rogue elements at State and CIA have colluded in an attempt to produce propaganda that they hoped would damage the efforts of this administration to effectively conduct the war on terror. What we know at this point is that a low-level State Department diplomat named Joe Wilson was dispatched to Niger by his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, for the apparent purpose of having cocktails with low-level Niger diplomats and getting assurances that they didn't know anything about any yellowcake uranium. An investigation has been launched into this underhanded scheme and there will be no further comment until it is completed."

But no... instead everybody had to play games. I couldn't care less about Libby.

Meanwhile, real heroes like Chessani and Wuterich continue to twist in the legal wind. It's a disgrace.

77 posted on 02/17/2009 2:23:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Buck W.

Pres. Bush didn’t do it...I assume he didn’t want to.


78 posted on 02/17/2009 4:54:30 PM PST by nyconse
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To: Lancey Howard; P-Marlowe
It has come to our attention that rogue elements at State and CIA have colluded in an attempt to produce propaganda

What a great statement! If only GW had had the wherewithal to stand up and be counted like that. His entire administration would have been a success had he simply defended himself.

Maybe that's why he wouldn't defend those who were on his side. Something was lacking.

79 posted on 02/17/2009 5:22:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: SharpTalons
Didn’t Libby lie under Oath?

No. A lie (in a criminal context) is a deliberate misrepresentation of a material fact. There was no evidence that the subject matter was "material" inasmuch as the prosecutor already knew that Richard Armitage was the source of the leak, and there was no substantial evidence that any misrepresentation was deliberate.

Libby was railroaded.

If you don't believe that, then how much are you willing to bet that Burris is going to be indicted for lying to Congress?

80 posted on 02/17/2009 6:10:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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