[Gondring]

We're the ones holding it all together - at least in my company - any quality is a result of the commitment of the workers, not the management.

And it used to be that America was known for its management skills. Now, I think that the situation you describe is the the norm, not the exception.

[dirtboy]

And it used to be that America was known for its management skills. Now, I think that the situation you describe is the the norm, not the exception.

So, by your own admission, idiots are driving the process that outsources labor and wants to bring in cheap H-1B hires, because that management is unethical, driven solely by short-term thinking, and don't understand quality.

Somehow, I think we've found the disconnect here.