Posted on 02/27/2009 7:26:13 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
And you are quite dishonest to twist my argument in this manner.
==And you are quite dishonest to twist my argument in this manner.
That’s a pretty serious charge. Many evolutionists have admitted that these common complaints do indeed have merit. Are you now saying that the “common complaints” you listed with respect to evolution are without merit? If so, you should have made that clear, and provided examples of the same.
==give me a precise definition of ‘information’ (or ‘functional information’
Your question is becoming increasingly difficult to answer with specificity because there has been a steady increase in the discovery of previously unkown sources of biological information. In general, functional information is what produces and regulates extremely complex biological organisms. This includes, but is not limited to, the genetic code, the histone code, differentiation code, replication code, as well as what appears to be a regulation code, transcription code, nerve code, and let’s not forget about the meta-information required to make sure all these codes work in concert. It’s all quite mind-boggling when you think about it.
Yes it is. Are you claiming you didn't do it?
What is the standard unit of measure of “biological information”?
==Yes it is. Are you claiming you didn’t do it?
I was tweaking you a little, but I would hardly call it “dishonest.” Do you honestly believe that I was trying to sneak something past you? I give you far more credit than that.
We are talking about functional information. In order to quantify that, you would need to understand the information in context.
What units of measure do the people who do understand it quantify it in? You don't have to understand gate circuits to know you by memory in megabytes.
I figured one good tweak deserved another.
You sure as hell don't.
GGG,
So if I get you right, everything since the Garden of Eden has devolved.
Then who in your view is more devolved: Whites or blacks?
Or were there Black kinds and White kinds?
I thought Adam and Eve were the “kind” for man.
Jesus. And the blue ribbon for "Vaguest and Most Useless Definition" goes too...this crap!
So 'functional information' is some utterly mysterious force that 'produces' and 'regulates' biological organisms, but only 'extremely complex' ones? Care to give precise definitions of what a 'complex biological organism' is, and what the precise dividing line is between a merely somewhat complex organism and what an 'extremely' complex one is? How exactly does this magic force 'regulate' and 'produce' these organisms? For that matter, what the hell does it even mean to 'regulate' or 'produce' an organism?
This is nonsense in quasi-scientific disguise. You might as well just say 'God magic'. Why is albinism 'devolution'? Because albino penguins have far less functional information God magic than normal ones, duh. Are things 'devolving' since the Fall? Of course, since after the Fall there's been a Biblical-predicted steady decrease in functional information God magic, obviously!
"In general, functional information God magic is what produces and regulates complex biological organisms."
Hey that works pretty well!
==So ‘functional information’ is some utterly mysterious force that ‘produces’ and ‘regulates’ biological organisms, but only ‘extremely complex’ ones?
Maybe you should take a basic course in biology. ALL biological organisms are extremely complex. If you knew anything about the life sciences you would at least know this. Functional information is no longer limited by stupid Evo beads on a string reductionism.
==How exactly does this magic force ‘regulate’ and ‘produce’ these organisms?
We are just scratching the surface in terms of understanding how production and regulation are accomplished. Again, if you knew anything at all about the life sciences, you would know this.
Let me ask you a question, OldMan, what in your opinion controls production and regulation of biological organisms? Be specific.
PS Evo newbies who start out with a rude and in-your-face attitude are virtually always DC retreads. Just out of curiosity, what was your screenname before your last banning?
The Bible tells us we all descended from Adam and Eve. The Bible tells us we are all equal in the sight of God. There is no room for Darwiniac racism in the Kingdom of God.
Again I ask you, what is your biology background? Why don't you state it? I have given you mine in a previous thread. It's obvious you regurgitate the creationist web sites without even a basic understanding of what they are discussing. Did you even graduate high school?
I'm following YOUR "logic". You said that there were kinds created by god and that after the fall of Adam and Eve, they "devolved" into what we see today. What was the kind of man? Since white people and black people look different, one must have devolved according to your system. Which one?
As an aside if you believe things have devolved, you must believe in evolution in the first place, since it is de-evolution.
I prefer to keep all that to myself. Let’s just let the arguments speak for themselves, shall we?
Evolution!
So you admit you believe in evolution.
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