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Washington state to allow `dignity' deaths
Yahoo-AP ^ | 03/01/2009 | RACHEL LA CORTE

Posted on 03/01/2009 12:21:37 PM PST by greatdefender

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To: floriduh voter

I wasn’t insulting him because of his opinion; he insulted me because of mine. I simply responded to this.


301 posted on 03/04/2009 9:52:11 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: wagglebee

That’s ridiculous. I’m simply saying that it probably would have been more humane to have administered the very drugs you would have outlawed rather than disconnect her from life support and let nature take its grisly course.


302 posted on 03/04/2009 9:55:18 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s a good point. I stand corrected.


303 posted on 03/04/2009 10:00:33 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: The Pack Knight; BykrBayb; floriduh voter
I’m simply saying that it probably would have been more humane to have administered the very drugs you would have outlawed rather than disconnect her from life support and let nature take its grisly course.

I have NEVER suggested that people should be kept on life support indefinitely. But the FACT remains that Terri WAS NOT on life support.

304 posted on 03/04/2009 10:02:59 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You are correct there. I was mistaken.


305 posted on 03/04/2009 10:03:55 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: The Pack Knight

Then you agree that Terri’s parents should have been allowed to give her the care that her adulterous husband refused to give her?


306 posted on 03/04/2009 10:07:38 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, I think his guardianship probably should have been terminated when he decided to “get on with his life,” for equitable reasons if not legal ones. I also think Congress had no business getting involved. Furthermore, this case illustrates the wisdom of drafting a living will.


307 posted on 03/04/2009 4:21:36 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: The Pack Knight
I also think Congress had no business getting involved.

Why? Congress called Terri to testify, that is certainly their right.

Additionally, Congress had the authority to involve themselves due to the violation of the 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments.

308 posted on 03/04/2009 4:49:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Assisted suicide is ILLEGAL in all but a few states, to change that requires the enactment of NEW LAWS

Interesting. You believe that if there is no law making an act legal, then that act is illegal?

309 posted on 03/07/2009 10:24:25 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
Interesting. You believe that if there is no law making an act legal, then that act is illegal?

No, there are specific laws AGAINST assisted suicide in all but two states and a judge is trying to overturn the law in one other.

310 posted on 03/08/2009 11:23:26 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
No, there are specific laws AGAINST assisted suicide in all but two states and a judge is trying to overturn the law in one other.

Correct. You are for more laws, I am for less.

311 posted on 03/08/2009 11:24:48 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

No, LEGISLATION (i.e. LAWS) is necessary to remove existing laws. You and your ilk have NEVER understood that.


312 posted on 03/08/2009 11:50:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

All true.As a health care pro for thirty years,the primary care Drs. always not only allow legal guardians of the patient to “pull the plug” on patients who have no hope of recovering to a dignified life,they most often suggest it in the most compassionate way possible.Although,I have seen Drs. like House(of tv fame)that just bluntly tell it like it is.Amazingly enough,most people’s family in these situations have been put through the wringer for years watching a loved one lose their faculties and suffer incredible pain,and appreciate the candor.


313 posted on 03/08/2009 3:25:52 PM PDT by mayflower1637
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To: mayflower1637

We ARE NOT talking about the cessation of extraordinary life support systems, we are talking about taking deliberate and premeditated actions that will ONLY result in death.


314 posted on 03/08/2009 4:13:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
No, LEGISLATION (i.e. LAWS) is necessary to remove existing laws. You and your ilk have NEVER understood that.

You have read (nor understood) anything I have posted. From the start, I have been for less laws and more freedom while you want to keep more laws on the books and have less freedom.

You statement that removing a law equates to having more laws is rediculous.

315 posted on 03/08/2009 4:22:27 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
You have read (nor understood) [sic] anything I have posted. From the start, I have been for less laws and more freedom while you want to keep more laws on the books and have less freedom.

Death IS NOT freedom.

You statement that removing a law equates to having more laws is rediculous [sic].

Perhaps you should learn to use spell check and then you might want to learn something about the legislative process.

316 posted on 03/08/2009 4:26:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I see you ducked my main point. Removing laws equates to fewer laws. Keeping laws on the books means more is illegal. You are for keeping laws on the books (hence more laws) and less freedom.
317 posted on 03/08/2009 4:30:15 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: wagglebee
Death IS NOT freedom.

And forcing someone to stay alive is freedom?

318 posted on 03/08/2009 4:32:42 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
I see you ducked my main point. Removing laws equates to fewer laws. Keeping laws on the books means more is illegal. You are for keeping laws on the books (hence more laws) and less freedom.

You have a basic misunderstanding of the legislative process. ALL states have codified law and it is called the "Code" of that state. ALL laws stay in there and are either amended or nullified by future laws. To legalize euthanasia, either a judge must overturn the law or a NEW LAW must nullify it.

Additionally, like many libertarians, you confuse freedom with anarchy. There is NOTHING wrong with codified law, that is what makes us civilized.

319 posted on 03/08/2009 4:37:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ColdWater

NOBODY is forcing ANYBODY to stay alive.


320 posted on 03/08/2009 4:37:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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