Posted on 03/01/2009 12:21:37 PM PST by greatdefender
Sleight of hand...the doctors don’t kill the patients. What, are you shilling for gun banners who try to tie gun manufacturers to the use of their products?
Besides, in a majority of times the medications are prescribed, they are not used. Sounds like the docs aren’t very good at “killing their patients.”
Or maybe, just maybe, you’re distorting the truth to try to make this sound like something it is not.
Let’s be clear and plain. The State is already in the way by blocking the ability to obtain the medications. The doctors do nothing more than restore the person’s right to obtain and possess those medications. The patient himself chooses whether and when to use them.
Yeah, I knew I was preaching to the choir with that one. I used you, to get the message out to the lurkers. And I’ll probably do it again. I think it’s a good addition to the wonderful job you’re doing at getting the message out.
No they just figured out that being honest in their goals didn't gain their agenda acceptance. They had to trick people by calling it "compassionate" to kill them. It's exactly the same tactic they used for legalization of abortion.
Perhaps. On the naivete’. Perhaps not.
I believe this is much ado about nothing. If you look at the stats in Oregon, where the law has been in place for several years now, it’s clear that it is not being utilized in mass numbers like everyone feared.
Oregon has been doing this for awhile. Washington must be having some necessary rationing of healthcare like Obama’s Universal Health plan will be guided by.
Of course Obama and his followers will be safe and under their own plan as the poor have to suffer and go along with THE PLAN.
Full text:
http://wei.secstate.wa.gov/osos/en/Documents/I1000-Text%20for%20web.pdf
Do definitions matter?
Do words matter? Of course they do.
Look at section 18:
Sec. 18. CONSTRUCTION OF ACT. (1) Nothing in this chapter authorizes a physician or any other person to end a patient’s life by lethal injection, mercy killing, or active euthanasia. Actions taken in accordance
with this chapter do not, for any purpose, constitute suicide, assisted suicide, mercy killing, or homicide, under the law. State reports shall not refer to practice under this chapter as “suicide” or “assisted suicide.” Consistent with sections 1 (7), (11), and (12), 2(1), 4(1)(k), 6, 7, 9, 12 (1) and (2), 16 (1) and (2), 17, 19(1) (a) and (d), and 20(2) of this act,
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state reports shall refer to practice under this chapter as obtaining and self-administering life-ending medication.
Thats right. Words matter.
This is not “euthanasia” This is not “mercy killing”
This is not “suicide”.....no...
It is ONLY TO BE REFERRED AS:
obtaining and self-administering life-ending medication
Why do you want the government to control who lives and who dies?
conservatives believe in life.
**The can choose to do the ethical thing.... CLOSE**
And with this new POPE, I can see a whole BUNCH of Catholic Hospitals doing just that ... CLOSE.
I can see the local commercial now ... Catholic Canon (law) says 1,2 and 3 ... Since our new president believes he has the power to force us to VIOLATE rules 1 AND 2, We will be closing this facility.. If you don’t like this .. Send your complaints to the WHITE HOUSE ... not us!!
Well, I don’t know where you got the idea that dehydration was euphoric or beautiful. I certainly never thought that was the case.
And where precisely did I suggest that I knew what she wanted? Frankly, I’d say it was highly unlikely that she was physically capable of the sort of cognitive function required for something like desire.
Euthanasia is Greek for “beautiful death”. The connotations derived from that are hardly consistent with deliberate starvation.
Would dosing her with sodium thiopental have been “beautiful”? Probably not, but it probably would have been more humane than starving her to death. However, because of laws like the one Washington got rid of, the latter was the only alternative to artificially prolonging her life beyond any reason.
“Mass murder of unproductive” is translated as “Dignity” in the illuminati anti-Bible.
One of the KEY analogies between Nazis and “globalists”
Before the mass slaughter of the sheep begins, in phase 2, the mass murder ageanda follows actually the same patterns as in Nazi Germany in phase 1:
- occupied territories: mass murder, hidden by all state media (Germany, US, UK, France, Spain, to name the most important).
- within the national borders: mass murder of “unproductive” sectors. (1)
Notes
(1) Unlike the Nazis, who even staged a propaganda campaign to let the populace accept it, the ongoing mass murder is also hidden by mass media, although it was significantly upscaled in October 2005.
Given that logic, a gun control advocate can say that gun ownership should be a crime, because the victims are all the Americans who are forced to live in a society with gun ownership.
With each right is freedom...
Free Speech doesn’t mean the government can force you to proclaim your political beliefs...you have the right to shut up.
Freedom of religion means you have the right to choose not to attend services.
Right to peaceably assemble doesn’t mean the government can force you to attend its rallies.
It would be a terrible twisting of our beautiful America to claim that the right to life does not include the right to die.
Conservatives care about individuals as individuals, not as pawns to be controlled by The State or grouped as a bunch. Individuals can choose their own paths better than you or I or the government can decide for them. Conservatives believe in rights.
I think that it goes beyond this issue. Preying on the vulnerable is a problem in any case, not just this. The vulnerable can be ripped off in scams, but we don’t respond with a ban on investing.
Then conservatives are betting on a losing horse. Every time. Because last time I checked, we’re mortal, and we ALL die. So you can believe in life all you want, but you’ll be wrong every time.
No physician has ever been convicted of a crime - EVER - for the proper use of his skills in assuring a merciful passing.
Laws nonwithstanding, that has just never happened, and, as long as we have juries, it never will.
Let's see-—I would have been dead 57 years ago because I am now 87.
I would have not ever seen my grandchildren or great-grandchildren. Also, in America the life expectation was increased year after year because of the advantages in science and health. So, we made a mistake; therefor, let's liquidate the old people.
Hope you enjoy your looking forward to a quick death—ha, ha.
That's what pro-euthanasia people want. I want government to keep it illegal to have the medical community sanctioned to assist killing people. You want the medical community to be involved in killing people. Medical community = state control.
Nobody needs to have the "okay" of the government to kill themselves today. They can do it without corrupting and bastardizing our medical system.
For a more honest look at what you're supporting read this article from 70 years ago.
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