Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gun Law Update Jan. 5, 2009 - Gun Ban Lists Revealed
Gunlaws.com ^ | Jan. 5, 2009 | Alan Korwin, Author

Posted on 3/3/2009, 11:03:21 PM by Sarajevo

The new Brady gun ban lists are already leaked


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: ar15m16; banglist; gunbanlist; longguns
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-82 next last
by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2009

1. Officials stocking up on AR-15-style long guns 2. Preliminary gun ban list revealed

1. S&W sales

With bans on AR-15 and AR-15-styled rifles to the public expected under the Obama administration (see gun-ban lists below), Smith and Wesson has just announced expansion of that market, with the sale of 275 of its M&P15 rifles to the Chicago police department. http://tinyurl.com/742qre

Chicago, president-elect Obama’s home town, has virtual bans on handguns and strict repressive limits on long guns, but police are excluded and criminals blithely ignore the provisions.

The M&P15 strongly resembles the AR-15, a high quality, semi automatic long gun used by the U.S. military and the public for decades. What the Chicago police expect to do with 275 of the guns, vilified as assault weapons by the lamestream media, was undisclosed. Assault, it has been noted, is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.

In other news, the Minnesota State Patrol has purchased 90 of the high-quality M&P15 firearms, which retail for more than $1,000 each.

In still other news, actor David Spade donated $100,000 to the Phoenix police department, to buy 50 new AR-15 rifles made by Colt, an S&W competitor. Spade was apparently moved by a “news” broadcast that said Phoenix officers had to buy their own rifles due to lack of funding, and he wanted to help them out.

2. Gun-ban list proposed

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Bradys plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity, I’m working on getting that news out asap after these ban lists, probably be ready in the next few days. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. See what 250 of your peers thought during our recent Bill of Rights Day event at the Wrigley Mansion in Phoenix: http://www.gunlaws.com/BOR-Day-2008-Report.htm

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1;

AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.” Note that Obama’s pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

If these near-total bans aren’t enough, the most dangerous part may be the phrase “pistol grip” because: “The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” In other words, any semi-auto long gun with a grip (that’s ALL semi-auto long guns) would be banned under the existing proposal. It’s not clear what they hope to achieve by deceptively banning guns with grips instead of just calling to ban the guns -- even an idjit can tell it’s the same thing.

I didn’t cover here all the magazine bans, transfer bans, dealer record-keeping and centralized reporting, and a host of nuisance details -- there will be time enough for that when the new lists are released soon: “As soon as President-elect Obama is inaugurated and the 111th Congress is sworn in,” according to Ms. Brady. Congress is set to be sworn in on Jan. 6, Inauguration Day is Jan. 20.

No one expects the new proposal to be less abusive than the current one supported by the party of the Democrats. Remember -- these bans were proposed when the congressional anti-rights crowd had no chance of success. Now they are ready to run wild, or according to Sarah herself, “I have never been so confident.” The “news” media has failed to report on any of this, preferring instead to blare that the incoming president supports the Second Amendment and commonsense (sic) laws.

To see the whole bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov and search for HR 1022, (switch to the 110th Congress if the 111th has begun).

The excellent Firearms Coalition started by the late Neal Knox and now run by his family members makes these important points about the upcoming Judiciary hearings for AG nominee Holder:

“The Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee are all sworn enemies to the Second Amendment and are unlikely to be swayed at all by any firearms related arguments, but might hesitate to confirm based on Holder’s participation in the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican terrorists and billionaire financier and arms merchant Marc Rich [and perhaps the Elian Gonzalez abduction by federal agents Holder authorized]. Any letters to Democrats should focus on those issues.

“On the Republican side, Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the committee has never been a friend to gun rights, but he owes his reelection to NRA support and has expressed concern over the pardon issues. Among the other Republicans, most are relatively reliable votes, but only Coburn has routinely taken a leadership role on Second Amendment matters. All of them need to be pressed hard to do everything they can to block the appointment.

“For more information about Eric Holder and why his appointment must be fought tooth and nail, go to our web site at http://www.FirearmsCoalition.org.”

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

1 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:03:22 PM by Sarajevo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

Hold on to what you have, and if possible, get more!


2 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:04:11 PM by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

I can’t express on here what I think of these people.


3 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:06:37 PM by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

Gun Control nuts : If you want them, come get them :D!


4 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:09:22 PM by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo
Gentlemen, I highly advise you to download a piece of encryption software called “PGP” AKA Pretty Good Privacy.
A simple tool you'll need when the fascist come to town.
And remember only share your key with someone you trust with you Freedom.
5 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:15:21 PM by Falcon4.0
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

The stores I shop at are having a hard time keeping guns and ammo.

By the time this law gets renewed, I expect many more weapons to be in patriot hands.

Don’t Mess with Texas!


6 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:18:05 PM by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

Be Ever Vigilant!

Molon Labe!


7 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:18:18 PM by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

What is it about this that they do not understand?

A fourth grade student can read and understand this.

But obviously the Dem’s cannot. (Liars)


8 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:18:27 PM by Texas Fossil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

“In still other news, actor David Spade donated $100,000 to the Phoenix police department, to buy 50 new AR-15 rifles made by Colt, an S&W competitor. Spade was apparently moved by a “news” broadcast that said Phoenix officers had to buy their own rifles due to lack of funding, and he wanted to help them out. “

Interesting tidbit there.


9 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:18:58 PM by headstamp 2 ("Government is a disease masquerading as it's own cure")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

Stash your guns and ammo in a safe place.


10 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:19:16 PM by screaminsunshine (f)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms... the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William S. Smith, 1787


11 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:19:46 PM by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wastedyears

You and me both.


12 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:20:52 PM by FortWorthPatriot (Those who lack a needle on their moral compass can say anything and not see a problem with saying it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blackie

Μολὼν λάβε


13 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:23:05 PM by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

Don’t Tread on Me!

But, if you insist, first make peace with your God.


14 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:23:26 PM by Gator113 (For America to survive, Obama must fail.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

The calm before the storm...these people have no idea what they’re starting...


15 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:23:48 PM by MountainWoman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: screaminsunshine
If it is time to stash 'em it is time to use 'em.

Μολὼν λάβε

16 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:23:57 PM by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo

BTTT


17 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:24:19 PM by mad_as_he$$ (Liquidity is a state of mind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sarajevo
SO?

Do you really want to hunt people down and kill them?

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts," Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony with legislators, sportsmen's groups and gun safety advocates.
"These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."
Governor Mitt Romney 2002

18 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:25:51 PM by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wastoute

Point taken. Food for thought. Looks like a fight is a comin. I just have a feeling it is going to get real. Again.


19 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:26:22 PM by screaminsunshine (f)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Falcon4.0
And remember only share your key with someone you trust with you Freedom.

Umm... Sharing your public key is not a matter of trust. PGP is a public/private key encryption and the public key is called "public" for a reason. You can -- in fact, MUST -- share it with lots of people.

The posession of your public key does NOT make it any easier for me to open YOUR encrypted messages. It's REQUIRED for any receiver to open encrypted messages CREATED by you, but won't do anything at all to help open messages sent TO you.

20 posted on 3/3/2009, 11:27:46 PM by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-82 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson