Posted on 03/03/2009 5:33:50 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE
From a "What's Up With That" AGW discussion about Arctic Ice coverage: Which satellites now measure with 2008 and 2009 at the second highest and third highest ever plotted. Data goes back only till 2000, but that sounds significant, doesn't it ? (Aside: Notice that Anti-AGW bias in reporting bare facts can go both ways? 8<)
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"With Lake Superior frozen over in 2003 and 2009, that puts this rare event (every 20 years or so) occurring more frequently even with our alleged AGW.
Notice that if you Google "Lake Superior Ice Cover" (or something similar) almost all the hits have to do with the warming of the lake and the lack of ice. These hits are clearly MSM and AGW alarmist driven.
The massive ice cover this winter is a good thing in that it decreases evaporative losses from the lakes and should further stabilize lake levels throughout the entire lake system.
The link below is a nice picture of yesterday’s ice cover. What with temperatures over most of the lake being -20 F last night, undoubtedly any little bit of open water has frozen over now.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mqt/?n=lake_superior_ice"
Certainly, NO Weather Channel or MSM reporter - in their zeal to hype the AGW cult and taxes of Obama and Pelosi and Dr Hansen's (illegal) protest at the DC power plant - has decided to talk about this story.
Obama is a communist.
The entire country could ice up in June and they would still get sheeple to support them on ‘global warming’
I was up there at the end of June last year and wore my winter coat a good bit of the time.
I was (sort of) comfortable near there in middle September - with a jacket on and long sleeves. (West coast of Michigan on the lake - directly opposite of Chicago. Wouldn’t want to be there now.)
To get the proper cooling trend, one should round up data back to 1998 and plot the trend from there.
September here in the southern part of the state usually isn’t too bad. We usually see our first snowfall around the end of October.
From NOAA.
Due to the recent cold spell and below normal temperatures for much of the winter of 2008-2009, ice covers nearly all of Lake Superior. Only small areas of open water remain. This image was taken on Tuesday, March 3rd. If arctic air does not return in the next couple of weeks, it is likely that this will be the day of maximum ice cover on Lake Superior for this winter as warmer weather and periods of stronger winds through the end of this week will cause open water areas to expand. Click on the image to view a higher resolution satellite picture (image is large — just under 1mb).
Superior is a tad bit farther North :-)
Typed as a Upper from way back.
In a couple of years they'll be calling it Superior Canyon and claiming it as one of the best places for white water rafting!
/sarc
That was Lake Eire, wasn’t it?
(See, if the river was still polluted - so it could catch fire again - we wouldn’t have ice fishermen on the lake where they COULD be trapped when the ice broke away and separated from the shore.
So it’s all Bush’s fault. 8<)
From the picture it looks like the straits are pretty will froze solid too.
Note the ice on Green Bay. We also lived in Menominee for 4 years, right on Green Bay. There was a man who went to our church who worked on a Great Lakes vessel of some sort. He was home during the winter. One very cold, still, January evening, as a full moon was rose in the east over the water, we watched it freeze over. The water was as still as glass. It was really neat. Next morning there was ice as far out as we could see.
Looks like we have some decent March weather coming in the next day or two. I woke up this morning and it was 2 degrees.
Upper? Not Yooper?
Admit it, the GW people really don’t know what to say. They’re jaws are frozen tight!
If the normal historic rate is once in twenty years (1/20 of the time), and it freezes over two times in six years (1/3 of the time), it’s pretty obvious that the current rate is 20/3 times as great as normal. That’s 6.66666X, more or less, or “are we looking at an Ice Age or what?”
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