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Democrat looking at taxing health benefit
Reuters ^ | 3/3/09 | Donna Smith

Posted on 03/03/2009 7:52:02 PM PST by anniegetyourgun

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To: DB
There are a variety of ways to do it. This started during WWII as a way for war industries, vital for our victory over Nazism, to get highly skilled employees to work for them.

Remember, there were wage and price controls and a company couldn't just offer higher wages as an inducement ~ so health insurance was used.

Without this system we'd lost the war and you'd be in concentration camps where all the guards would be Democrat politicians.

Just like today!

41 posted on 03/03/2009 8:30:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I seriously doubt wage and price controls won the war.

Wage and price controls made a mess that we are still living with today.

42 posted on 03/03/2009 8:34:10 PM PST by DB
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To: DB
Surprise ~ you misread ~ I obviously attributed health care benefits with winning the war. Wage and price controls were used to "control labor" so that folks didn't go from job to job to job chasing after higher wages, such activity being viewed as detrimental to the war effort (as well as increasing its cost).

Remember, the Democrats ran that war and they imposed their own peculiar ideas of what motivates people on friend and foe alike. Basically the Democrat theory was that American workers, given their heads, would crap on the country for a few bucks, just like the rich guys who hung around FDR.

43 posted on 03/03/2009 8:37:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: anniegetyourgun

Oh yeah, that’ll fix it. Ballooning health insurance costs, hours down, pay down, add more expense to the mix. Brilliant!


44 posted on 03/03/2009 8:39:25 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: muawiyah

I interpreted “Without this system we’d lost the war ...” to include how untaxed health insurance came about - price and wage controls. Meaning the root of health insurance provided by employers was due to government interference in the markets. I don’t think I misread that. Now I definitely could have misinterpreted any intended sarcasm in what you said.


45 posted on 03/03/2009 8:50:09 PM PST by DB
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To: Aria

Not soon enough I’m afraid


46 posted on 03/03/2009 8:50:35 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: mortal19440
Why would an employer offer health care to his employees?

In some states employers are mandated to pay for health insurance of its employees (Hawaii for example).

47 posted on 03/03/2009 8:50:54 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: anniegetyourgun

Another regressive tax out of the democrats.


48 posted on 03/03/2009 8:51:31 PM PST by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Might as well add garlic to that mix.

Yes, and with the added benefit of keeping werewolves away!

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49 posted on 03/03/2009 8:56:10 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: muawiyah
Remember, there were wage and price controls and a company couldn't just offer higher wages as an inducement ~ so health insurance was used.

The birth of Kaiser Permanente (for example)....

50 posted on 03/03/2009 8:56:48 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: pantherskincreek

Employers will stop offering group plans - why should they when they can shift that cost to the government/taxpayer.


51 posted on 03/03/2009 8:57:19 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: DB
The system, to wit, offering health insurance as an inducement, enabled companies (the market place) to attract superior workers for necessary tasks.

With full mobilization of the economy for the war effort, there was no danger that a top quality worker would end up in the wrong job provided that both he and the employer could participate in that decision (that he work for that employer on that projct).

Central control of all employment decisions would have prevented good workers from leaving poorly managed systems to go to better managed systems which, due to being better managed, would necessarily provide more umph to the war effort.

WITHOUT HEALTH CARE INSURANCE AS AN INDUCEMENT, Democrat party appratchiks would have been running everything at all levels and we'd lost the war.

52 posted on 03/03/2009 9:01:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: anniegetyourgun

These guys just never stop trying to shaft Americans. What a Frickin’ A$$hole.

Sorry, had to say it.


53 posted on 03/03/2009 9:01:50 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

What are they not thinking of taxing?


54 posted on 03/03/2009 9:05:13 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a guideline.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Makes perfect sense... tax private insurance through employers... and then NO-ONE can afford private insurance (except the super-wealthy and politicians with their free government-paid coverage). That way there is an excuse to just completely socialize the entire US medical system.

Then dictators can decide what medical care we can receive and when. Old? Then you don’t need costly surgery or treatments... you’re gonna die soon anyway.

You yeah you. You’ve got a job, so you can wait while this illegal alien...errr.... guest worker gets care he couldn’t get back home.

I’m sorry Miss... you have a lump in your breast... we need to to a mammogram. Lets see... since we are dealing with a possibility of cancer... lets rush up the schedule... how about 6 months from next Thursday?

Folks - at what point do we say “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”?


55 posted on 03/03/2009 9:05:42 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

abortion


56 posted on 03/03/2009 9:07:06 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Desron13

I have been thinking EXACTLY the same thing...


57 posted on 03/03/2009 9:26:48 PM PST by steel_resolve (I don't see how the Obama administration leads to anything but civil war...)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Yeah, our legislators here in Montana are depressing. Two DEM senators and a DEM governor. One representative and he is Republican Denny Rehberg. (thankfully we have one repiblican) Quite discouraging for me and I told myself when Obama got elected that Tester’s office and Baucus’s office would know me by name...or at least their staff would. It seems like I average 4 calls a week to those guys. Doesn’t seem like it does much good, though. sigh....


58 posted on 03/03/2009 9:27:13 PM PST by MTMS
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To: MTMS

oops...I am tired...repiblican = republican


59 posted on 03/03/2009 9:28:17 PM PST by MTMS
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To: umgud
Pretty soon, not even working people will be able to afford their mortgages.

You are right, but pretty soon, there will be no one to tax, we'll all be POOR!

What the IDIOTS in Washington have not realized is you cannot tax, tax, tax, there will be nothing left & we WILL BE IN A HUGE DEPRESSION!

60 posted on 03/03/2009 9:43:39 PM PST by blondee123 (Barack O'Lenin, King of United Socialist America!)
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