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Feds' minority contracts in peril
My San Antonio ^ | 03/01/2009 12:00 CST | David Hendricks

Posted on 03/04/2009 1:52:11 PM PST by houeto

All aspects of federal contracting programs favoring minority-owned businesses have been turned upside down by an injunction issued by a judge in San Antonio.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: contracts; lawsuit; minority; preferences; ruling
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To: houeto

Let’s hope it sticks!


41 posted on 03/04/2009 4:19:09 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: ravingnutter

That’s not the point I was contesting. You said (hate to use that phrase) that the first award was always competitive. That’s not true. There are about ten exemptions where any award can be non-competitive.

I do understand that LOGCAP was a competative award. The libs and freaks lied about the award of task orders issued under the original competitive contract, acting as if they new non-competitive contracts which they were not.

DCAA wouldn’t handle market surveys or J&As. Your government customer (user agency) would do that for the contracting officer.


42 posted on 03/04/2009 4:30:51 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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To: houeto

Thousands of minority-owned companies across the nation seek 8(a) certification from the SBA, which allows them to win procurement contracts from all federal agencies on a preferential basis, often without facing competitive bids.

The minority contracting program administered by the Transportation Department, which gives preferences for street and bridge construction to minority firms, also can be contested by other contractors, forcing the transportation agency to re-bid contracts on an open, non-race basis.

*******

Why were they ever rewarded in the first place? I thought we were all supposed to be EQUAL!!!

I don’t think I want to be lectured by liberals any longer about race, thank you very much!


43 posted on 03/04/2009 4:31:29 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Myrddin
Many companies are "owned" by a token female minority. It extends special "status" to those businesses over other competitors. It's usually a sham. I'm familiar with two businesses where it is absolutely a sham.

That happens with white female owned businesses too! The woman is just a front for the real owners.

44 posted on 03/04/2009 4:34:05 PM PST by kcvl
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To: houeto

These “minority” contracts really do need to be terminated. My experience is only in the transportation industry. Very often - in fact most of the time - the contracts will be given to a minority owned “business” that promptly farms them out as a sub to some non-minority owned business who was barred from bidding on the contracts. The minority owned “business” takes a healthy cut off the top, of course, while doing zero work. It is quite a lucrative scam.


45 posted on 03/04/2009 4:50:23 PM PST by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: kcvl

We are all equal. Some are just more equal than others. Ref Animal Farm and sadly the US and most (all?) state governments...


46 posted on 03/04/2009 4:57:38 PM PST by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: piytar

Forgot to mention that the non-minority owned businesses who get the sub-contracts have no problem with this because the minority owned ones charge such a premium on the contracts (due to limited competition) that there is plenty of premium to spread around...


47 posted on 03/04/2009 5:02:47 PM PST by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: AuntB

Sounds like good news to me. This puts a hitch in the get-along to programs that allow prejudicial bid selection against non-minority owned businesses.


48 posted on 03/04/2009 5:41:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: kcvl

My recall was 8(a)s get “set asides” non-competitive awards. SBA has to “certify” you as minority owned.

Minority Owned Business can have competitive procurements bidders restricted to MOBs only. MOBs are “self-certifying” but competitirs can easily challenge your MOB status.

Women Owned Businesses have no such advantage other than procurement shops have goals to meet but there’s no set asides or restricted competitions they can use to meet those goals.


49 posted on 03/04/2009 6:25:36 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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To: piytar

Federal contracts require that the minority firm do the majority of the work. Getting “8(a)” status is an involved process. And most sham outfits won’t pass muster. SBA guarnettees the performance of the 8(a) firm and has to pay back the Federal agency for the 8(a) contract cost if it turns out real bad. Emphasis on “real bad”.


50 posted on 03/04/2009 6:30:32 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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To: kcvl

I know a woman who married a minority so her company could apply for 8(a) status. Not sure he understood what was going on. She was one ruthless bitch, so I suspect it was purely a sham on her part. Soap opera stuff.

Talk about “friends with benefits” this was “friends with benefits and a paycheck”!!!


51 posted on 03/04/2009 6:35:23 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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To: houeto

Equal protection clause?


52 posted on 03/04/2009 7:20:39 PM PST by dr_who
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To: RobFromGa

That’s a great quote. Makes you wish people like that were still alive to go on the offense against the Democrats and RINOs without being conciliatory.


53 posted on 03/04/2009 7:23:13 PM PST by dr_who
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To: RobFromGa

Great quote.


54 posted on 03/04/2009 7:50:22 PM PST by rb22982
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To: GeronL

He’s all but decreed that only union labor can be used for these upcoming infrastructure projects. Can’t wait to see the bids....they’re going to be hysterically high. Unions can not build anything cheaper than the private sector. That is why they require government protection to exist now days.


55 posted on 03/04/2009 8:22:49 PM PST by graywaiter (You can't multiply wealth by dividing it.............Dr. Adrian Rogers)
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To: houeto

If someone misrepresented their race or ethnicity to circumvent, evade, or defeat a set-aside, I would not have any more problem with it than if a Black person sent a white friend as a “straw buyer” for a home in a neighborhood that practiced racial discrimination. I do not recognize affirmative action preferences as having any right to exist.


56 posted on 03/04/2009 8:30:10 PM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: FreepShop1
Great question! Another one I would ask is what exactly is our dear Zero answers when quizzed on his ethnicity? Is he black or white on his census application? I don't think they have 50/50 as a category.
57 posted on 03/04/2009 8:30:25 PM PST by graywaiter (You can't multiply wealth by dividing it.............Dr. Adrian Rogers)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; SeaHawkFan
hooray for the Hispanic judge who did not give in to race baiting!

See post #27. Judge Rodriguez ruled the wrong way three times. The appeals court finally ordered him directly to rule the way he did. If Rodriguez had not followed the higher court's order, he would have been in contempt of court himself.

58 posted on 03/04/2009 11:02:14 PM PST by tvdog12345
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To: houeto

Interesting


59 posted on 03/05/2009 12:49:02 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: houeto

This is good news but it shouldn’t take a judge to tell the government to provide equal protection and equal rights for citizens - the government is supposed to already be on that side.


60 posted on 03/05/2009 2:28:04 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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