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Gang war worrying Vancouver ahead of 2010 Games
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 3/6/09 | Allan Dowd

Posted on 03/06/2009 3:23:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) – A surge in gang violence is hurting Vancouver's image as it prepares to host the 2010 Olympics, the city's mayor said on Friday.

Police publicly acknowledged for the first time that the Vancouver area was in the midst of a "gang war" between several organized crime groups fighting over the illegal drug market.

While the violence is still tame compared to that seen in other parts of the world, it is not something Vancouver is used to dealing with, Mayor Gregor Robertson said.

"Vancouver has never been known for this, so in terms of our international reputation it is a problem, and we need to bear down and deal with it," Robertson told a news conference announcing another arrest of a gang leader.

The city on Canada's Pacific coast will host the Winter Games in February 2010.

"It is very unfortunate that we are beginning to look like most of the big cities around the world, certainly in the United States, that deal with significant violent crime," he said.

Gang-related shootings have become an almost daily occurrence in Vancouver and surrounding suburbs since mid-January, but police have refused to officially describe it as a gang war.

"Well let's get serious. There is a gang war and it's brutal," Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu said.

Local police say the violence largely involves mid-level gangs that are fighting over the turf they control to sell cocaine and produce marijuana -- much of which is eventually exported to the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2010games; gangwar; tm; vancouver; worrying
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1 posted on 03/06/2009 3:23:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Cover me, Hank.. I’m going for another beer.


2 posted on 03/06/2009 3:27:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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Cant send any troops from here, big gang war in this city also.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 3:29:09 PM PST by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal in Sarah)
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Geeze - all they have to do is send them a nice card asking them to please cut it out ....


4 posted on 03/06/2009 3:29:44 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just talked to my aunt who lives up there. They do have a gang war going on. The big concern is about collateral damage. They are pulling their jobs in local malls as well as the street. The hitters also target family members. It is hit and counter hit over drugs/turf/money. It is bad by Canadian standards but sort of like a bad weekend in Oakland CA. The bigger problem is more political with the Olympics coming. The local politicos grandstand but lax immigration/deportation laws as well as easy bail exacerbate the problem. I told her not to be alarmed because Canada has strict gun control and handguns are very hard to obtain. :~)


5 posted on 03/06/2009 3:42:51 PM PST by Polynikes
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I’ve never been there but i hear from a friend that lives there that Vancouver is a frigging welfare dump.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 3:57:43 PM PST by mowowie
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I’m originally from Vancouver, and I was there for Christmas and New Year.

First off, the gang members are NOT black NOR Hispanic. For a liberal society far worse than San Francisco, even they won’t put up with this “si si puede” shenanigans. The mexicans know their place there and dont want to rock the boat.

It’s mostly either Hells Angels (yes, that H-A) that openly mock the keystone cops of Canada: the Vancouver Police Dept or Asian members like Chinese, India(n) or Vietnamese gangs that are involved. The cops there are useless. The only thing they are good at is giving you a speeding ticket.


7 posted on 03/06/2009 4:00:10 PM PST by max americana
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Gang-related shootings

Why this cannot be! In Canada, you must be licensed and a member of a certified and licensed range to own a handgun. How are these youths and criminals getting these guns with the laws that are in place?

8 posted on 03/06/2009 4:02:37 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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Never said the gangsters were ethnic (non-white) in origin. I used Oakland only as a comparison. She said essentially the same thing ie: the gangs are “mixed” and the cops are basically only good for traffic control.
9 posted on 03/06/2009 4:43:47 PM PST by Polynikes
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To: NormsRevenge; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

10 posted on 03/06/2009 4:45:31 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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Well, I dont want to be truly disrespectful to the RCMP/VPD because one of my buddies there is still with the Mounties (who also signed as reference for me before I headed here) but as an example: the Hells Angels operate a stripclub called the No 5 Orange in DT Vancouver, yet is situated a block away from the central VPD branch. It was closed by the cops (then opened) by the HA so many times, the VPD gave up.


11 posted on 03/06/2009 5:14:20 PM PST by max americana
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Thanks, Fanfan. Btt


12 posted on 03/06/2009 5:35:53 PM PST by Velveeta
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You’re welcome.


13 posted on 03/06/2009 5:40:04 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: max americana

My wife and I just booked flight/hotel for travel to Vancouver in late August. Simply couldn’t resist the roundtrip fare from Atlanta of $190 on Air Canada. Please tell me we didn’t make a mistake.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 5:44:25 PM PST by gatorhead
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Which hotel/area are u guys booked at?


15 posted on 03/06/2009 5:48:16 PM PST by max americana
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sutton place


16 posted on 03/06/2009 6:52:07 PM PST by gatorhead
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Please tell me we didn’t make a mistake.

You didn't. Columbus has a far worse problem with gangs than Vancouver.

17 posted on 03/06/2009 8:07:32 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Vancouver is my hometown. I suspect that the gang problem has gotten worse since I left.


18 posted on 03/07/2009 4:05:13 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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How can they be fighting over drugs when drugs are illegal?


19 posted on 03/07/2009 4:07:00 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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What’s the story with the Sikh gangs in Vancouver? Just before I emigrated the Dosanj gang and the Johal gang were duking it out to supply drugs. Their feud was getting nasty at the time...


20 posted on 03/07/2009 4:09:56 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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