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Remember The Alamo! (166 Men Died For Freedom - March 6, 1836)
March 6, 2009 | Robert A Cook

Posted on 03/06/2009 7:49:34 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE

In the face of increasing terror attacks on our rights and our freedoms from the media and their anointed deities in Washington, it is important that we remember our history.

And those who died looking at the guns of oppression for many days, but who refused to quit.

-- And, in Goliad a few days before, remember also those who were mercilessly slaughtered AFTER meekly surrendering to the same invading horde of despots. Those deaths prove that "Quitting" and "Negotiations" are a fast way to death.

not peace.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alamo; amnesty; goliad; guadalupehidalgo; sovereignty
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Too few remember the murdered down in South Texas in Goliad - who were killed after leaving their fort.

Yes, some in TX were fighting Santa Anna for their economic freedom and way of life (which, in did include slavery) - but few who fought were slave-owners. Despite the revisonists today.

Thank you, TN volunteers.

1 posted on 03/06/2009 7:49:34 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Thank you for the reminder.
May those that have any thinking abilities left, think.


2 posted on 03/06/2009 7:54:51 PM PST by elpinta (Speachless!!!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The Alamo, San Antonio, TX

The final assault came before daybreak on the morning of March 6, 1836, as columns of Mexican soldiers emerged from the predawn darkness and headed for the Alamo's walls. Cannon and small arms fire from inside the Alamo beat back several attacks. Regrouping, the Mexicans scaled the walls and rushed into the compound. Once inside, they turned a captured cannon on the Long Barrack and church, blasting open the barricaded doors. The desperate struggle continued until the defenders were overwhelmed. By sunrise, the battle had ended and Santa Anna entered the Alamo compound to survey the scene of his victory.

While the facts surrounding the siege of the Alamo continue to be debated, there is no doubt about what the battle has come to symbolize. People worldwide continue to remember the Alamo as a heroic struggle against impossible odds — a place where men made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom. For this reason, the Alamo remains hallowed ground and the Shrine of Texas Liberty.



3 posted on 03/06/2009 8:00:36 PM PST by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! P.S. I like jelly beans.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Hallowed ground.


4 posted on 03/06/2009 8:01:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

(Below is the version of the Alamo story from “The Straight Dope”, by Cecil Adams, of the Chicago Reader, a column much like Snopes, devoted to sorting fact from fiction.)

There was not just one Texan survivor at the Alamo, but six: three women, two children, and a black male servant. In addition, sympathizers from the town of San Antonio across the river from the Alamo were sneaking in and out of the fort more or less continuously during the siege preceding the massacre, so there was no lack of Texan witnesses to the whole affair.

Still, the most detailed reports of the battle itself come from Mexican soldiers. It turns out that the stirring stories of heroic deeds so cherished by Texans were arrived at mostly by that creative process we call “making it up,” the basis of much American history.

One of the longest and possibly most objective accounts of the Alamo’s last stand was written by one Jose Enrique de la Pena, a lieutenant colonel with the forces of the Mexican president-general Santa Anna. He was critical of the leadership on both sides, particularly his own.

For instance, when Mexican forces first arrived at San Antonio on February 23, 1836, the Texans were sleeping it off from a rousing party the night before, and the Alamo (a converted mission) was guarded by only ten men. Rather than move swiftly, though, the Mexican commander dawdled, permitting the Texans to raise the alarm and scramble their forces into position.

As it happened, the defenders were about as disorganized as the Mexicans. They had a clumsy system of dual leadership, with the regular forces commanded by William Travis while the volunteers answered only to Jim Bowie. The Texans had not bothered to store much food or ammunition, and they had nowhere near enough men to defend their fort, a large, irregularly shaped compound whose walls were crumbling in places.

The Mexican troops, for their part, were poorly paid, ill-fed, and haphazardly trained, and had been exhausted by a grueling march over the desert. Even so, morale was reasonably high. The Mexicans with some justice regarded the Texans as murderous barbarians. Indeed, one of the reasons the Texans were so determined to win independence from Mexico in the first place was that the Mexican constitution outlawed slavery, which the Texans favored.

Having lost the advantage of surprise, Santa Anna could have done two things: simply bypass the Alamo altogether, since it was of little strategic value, or wait until his artillery arrived, which would simplify breaching the fort’s defenses. He did neither, opting instead for a rash attack instead on March 6—according to rumor, says de la Pena, because Santa Anna had heard that Travis and company were on the verge of surrendering, and he didn’t want to win without some battlefield heroics first.

The assault was a nightmare. Advancing on the fort, the Mexicans were ordered to commence firing while still out of range, with the result that they had to reload under the Texans’ guns. Scaling ladders were inadequate, and the Mexican soldiers were forced to scrabble over the walls on the backs of their fellows. Once the Mexicans were inside, the battle degenerated into a melee, with soldiers shooting at their comrades as often as at the enemy.

When it was all over, seven captured defenders, including Davy Crockett, were brought before Santa Anna. He ordered them killed, and they were hacked to death with sabres. American losses are variously given as 182, 188, and 253, while the Mexicans lost more than 300, de la Pena says. All in all, it was not a heroic episode for anyone concerned.

— Cecil Adams


5 posted on 03/06/2009 8:09:41 PM PST by re_tail20
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The heroes of Goliad and the Alamo are rolling in their graves to see what is happening these days.

May God Bless These Heroes. May Americans today learn the lessons of their sacrifice.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 8:09:44 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The Training Ground: Grant, Lee, Sherman, and Davis in the Mexican War, 1846-1848 (Hardcover)

Must read

7 posted on 03/06/2009 8:11:26 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Indeed, Goliad was as much an fight for independence as the Alamo. Those at the Alamo were remembering Goliad before San Jacinto remembered the Alamo.

Today is an important day to remember.

And I was proud on Monday to be in one of the few counties where we still close offices for Texas Independence Day.

8 posted on 03/06/2009 8:15:27 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

9 posted on 03/06/2009 8:15:27 PM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I remember the Alamo, every day.


10 posted on 03/06/2009 8:18:54 PM PST by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: Wneighbor

Now if something could be done with Washington-on-the-Brazos, it would be even better.


11 posted on 03/06/2009 8:21:10 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: BigCinBigD

TEXT OF LETTER FROM COL. TRAVIS:

February 24, 1836

Fellow citizens & compatriots —

I am beseiged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna — I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man — The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken — I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls — I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism, & every thing dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch — The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country —

VICTORY OR DEATH

William Barret Travis
Lt. Col. Comdt.

P.S. The Lord is on our side — When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn — We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels & got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves —

Travis


12 posted on 03/06/2009 8:23:00 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I believe there were almost 300 murdered by the Mexicans at Goliad...something to do with black beans. As a 6th generation Tennessean, I always had a sense of pride whenever I visited the Alamo...last time in 1996. I would venture that I have been to the Alamo 20+ times or better. I used to live in Del Rio, was stationed at Lackland, spent time TDY to the MWD center at Lackland, and the last time went to continuing ed there...A good many individuals from this area are related to the Tennesseans that were killed at the Alamo...Lawrenceburg is only 60 miles from here.
13 posted on 03/06/2009 8:23:35 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I will always remember the Alamo. It’s my birthday today.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 8:24:13 PM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; All
God Bless Texas! God Bless Texas!

15 posted on 03/06/2009 8:26:35 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm8gvXClrP4&feature=related

Davy, a Tennessean, at the Alamo.

16 posted on 03/06/2009 8:26:56 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

BUMP and thank you for the post.


17 posted on 03/06/2009 8:28:44 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: re_tail20
It turns out that the stirring stories of heroic deeds so cherished by Texans were arrived at mostly by that creative process we call “making it up,” the basis of much American history.

Ain't no bias in that piece of garbage. Nope!

18 posted on 03/06/2009 8:29:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

http://www.lp.org/blogs/donny-ferguson/lp-monday-message-happy-texas-independence-day-why-that-matters-to-you

See the article posted on the Libertarian Party website.


19 posted on 03/06/2009 8:30:02 PM PST by KwHorn77 (Tired of the GOP being the minority party!)
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To: re_tail20

Another Mexican account says nothing of seven captured defenders but does describe an American shouting defiance at the Mexicans in between his deadly shots. After the battle the same leader was obeserved with his strange hat lying beside his body (Crockett often wore fox tailed hats as well as coonskins).


20 posted on 03/06/2009 8:32:13 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

BTTT


21 posted on 03/06/2009 8:32:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Cecil Adams has a leftist bent to a lot of his stuff.


22 posted on 03/06/2009 8:34:24 PM PST by JimC214
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL62m5umP4g

Marty Robbins - Ballad of the Alamo


23 posted on 03/06/2009 8:34:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: JimC214

I’m not a fan of revisionist history.


24 posted on 03/06/2009 8:35:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: txnativegop


The park also boasts an interpretive trail which winds from Independence Hall, a replica of the original building where the signing of the Texas Declaration of Independence took place, to the historic Washington townsite. Work at the park will continue for the next year with the replication of Barrington Farm. The homestead of Anson Jones, the fourth and last president of the Republic of Texas, will include a two-story home that is being relocated from its present site behind the museum to the farm.”

http://www.birthplaceoftexas.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBlwP1fRQU&feature=related


25 posted on 03/06/2009 8:37:41 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Memphis Moe

They have improved it since I was there last. When I go back home I will have to check it out.


26 posted on 03/06/2009 8:38:45 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Jet Jaguar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOVFbsHDgd0&NR=1

The Alamo - The Green Leaves Of Summer - Original Soundtrack


27 posted on 03/06/2009 8:40:02 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Neither am I. According to Mexican not American accounts, they lost a hell of a lot more then 300 men during the attack. Typically leftists try to down play anything that is revered in this country.


28 posted on 03/06/2009 8:40:44 PM PST by JimC214
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To: re_tail20
Cecil Adams account has a little truth mixed in with so much bullsh*t that it becomes difficult to separate the two. The basic fact is that Mexico had only won its independence from Spain a couple of decades earlier and couldn't convince much of anyone from the south of the Rio Grande to settle in what we now call Texas. Texas only begin to develop when outsiders were invited in and promised a degree of autonomy or what we Americans call liberty or state's rights.

All went well until the Texicans begin to prosper and were seen as a source of taxes and labor to shore up the corrupt empire of Santa Ana to the south. When the rights which they were guaranteed were repudiated by Santa Ana, the Texicans naturally declared independence.

Look at the list of the defenders of the Alamo and where they came from. They didn't all come from Texas and Tennessee and South Carolina. Some came from England and Germany and even Mexico to fight for the independence that they had declared.

The list needs to be printed and reviewed. What makes Texans special is the same thing that makes Americans special-- it is a way of thinking and a love of liberty, not an accident of birth.

29 posted on 03/06/2009 8:49:30 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Gentlemen,please remove your hats.

The Alamo is one of the most solemn places I’ve ever been.


30 posted on 03/06/2009 8:52:38 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Why are guns always named Bill? Why not Bob or Fred? Maybe something cheery, like Petunia.)
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To: JimC214

Yeah. I was just reading something about this the other day. The article said that the low side was at least over 400 Mexican soldiers killed. I don’t know why the lefties feel they need to attack and destroy what happened at the Alamo. (Well, I really do. They hate America). Having said all that. The defenders at the Alamo gave Houston and his 910 Texicans the time needed to get their act together and form the army needed to stop Santa Anna at San Jacinto. The actual battle lasted approximately 20 minutes. Everything else is irrelevant.


31 posted on 03/06/2009 8:53:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

It just seemed appropriate to ping.


32 posted on 03/06/2009 8:56:55 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

Thank you!!!


33 posted on 03/06/2009 8:58:02 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I asked everyone at work “What is today, March 6th?”

Sadly, no one knew.

Those who do not know history, are destined to repeat it.


34 posted on 03/06/2009 8:58:29 PM PST by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger --------------- Molon Labe)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The story of Goliad needs to be told. From what I remember, they surrendered without a fight and then were massacred. I’ve seen figures for Goliad and another town at between 300-600 killed after surrending.

Gen. Santa Ana was captured during the Mexican-American War but was released, and never tried for his war crimes.

Sounds like Obama and Holder were running the country, even back then.


35 posted on 03/06/2009 8:58:48 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Vigilanteman

Alamo Defenders

The following list of Alamo defenders and birthplaces was obtained from the Daughters of the Republic of Texas Library at the Alamo, San Antonio, Texas.

Defender’s Name and Birthplace

Abamillo, Juan (Texas)

Allen, Robert (Virginia)

Andross, Miles DeForrest (Vermont)

Autry, Micajah (North Carolina)

Badillo, Juan A. (Texas)

Bailey, Peter James III (Kentucky)

Baker, Isaac G. (Arkansas)

Baker, William Charles M. (Missouri)

Ballentine, John J. (Pennsylvania)

Ballantine, Richard W. (Scotland)

Baugh, John J. (Virginia)

Bayliss, Joseph (Tennessee)

Blair, John (Tennessee)

Blair, Samuel (Tennessee)

Blazeby, William (England)

Bonham, James Butler (South Carolina)

Bourne, Daniel (England)

Bowie, James (Kentucky)

Bowman, Jesse B. (Tennessee)

Brown, George (England)

Brown, James (Pennsylvania)

Brown, Robert (Unknown)

Buchanan, James (Alabama)

Burns, Samuel E. (Ireland)

Butler, George, D. (Missouri)

Cain, John (Pennsylvania)

Campbell, Robert (Tennessee)

Carey, William R. (Virginia)

Clark, Charles Henry (Missouri)

Clark, M.B. (Mississippi)

Cloud, Daniel William (Kentucky)

Cochran, Robert E. (New Hampshire)

Cottle, George Washington (Missouri)

Courtman, Henry (Germany)

Crawford, Lemuel (South Carolina)

Crockett, David (Tennessee)

Crossman, Robert (Pennsylvania)

Cummings, David P. (Pennsylvania)

Cunningham, Robert (New York)

Darst, Jacob C. (Kentucky)

Davis, John (Kentucky)

Day, Freeman H.K. (Unknown)

Day, Jerry C. (Missouri)

Daymon, Squire (Tennessee)

Dearduff, William (Tennessee)

Dennison, Stephen (England or Ireland)

Despallier, Charles (Louisiana)

Dewall, Lewis (New York)

Dickinson, Almeron (Tennessee)

Dillard, John Henry (Tennessee)

Dimpkins, James R. (England)

Duvalt, Andrew (Ireland)

Espalier, Carlos (Texas)

Esparza, Gregorio (Texas)

Evans, Robert (Ireland)

Evans, Samuel B. (New York)

Ewing, James L. (Tennessee)

Faunterloy, William Keener (Kentucky)

Fishbaugh, William (Unknown)

Flanders, John (Massachusetts)

Floyd, Dolphin Ward (North Carolina)

Forsyth, John Hubbard (New York)

Fuentes, Antonio (Texas)

Fuqua, Galba (Alabama)

Garnett, William (Virginia)

Garrand, James W. (Louisiana)

Garrett, James Girard (Tennessee)

Garvin, John E. (Unknown)

Gaston, John E. (Kentucky)

George, James (Unknown)

Goodrich, John C. (Virginia)

Grimes, Albert Calvin (Georgia)

Guerrero, José María (Texas)

Gwynne, James C. (England)

Hannum, James (Pennsylvania)

Harris, John (Kentucky)

Harrison, Andrew Jackson (Tennessee)

Harrison, William B (Ohio)

Hawkins, Joseph M. (Ireland)

Hays, John M. (Tennessee)

Heiskell, Charles M. (Tennessee)

Herndon, Patrick Henry (Virginia)

Hersee, William Daniel (England)

Holland, Tapley (Ohio)

Holloway, Samuel (Pennsylvania)

Howell, William D. (Massachusetts)

Jackson, Thomas (Ireland)

Jackson, William Daniel (Kentucky)

Jameson, Green B. (Kentucky)

Jennings, Gordon C. (Pennsylvania)

Jimenes (Ximenes), Damacio (Texas)

Johnson, Lewis (Wales)

Johnson, William (Pennsylvania)

Jones, John (New York)

Kellog, John Benjamin (Kentucky)

Kenney, James (Virginia)

Kent, Andrew (Kentucky)

Kerr, Joseph (Louisiana)

Kimbell, George C. (Pennsylvania)

King, William Philip (Texas)

Lewis, William Irvine (Virginia)

Lightfoot, William J. (Virginia)

Lindley, Jonathan L. (Illinois)

Linn, William (Massachusetts)

Losoya, Toribio (Texas)

Main, George Washington (Unknown)

Malone, William T. (Georgia)

Marshall, William (Tennessee)

Martin, Albert (Rhode Island)

McCafferty, Edward (Unknown)

McCoy, Jesse (Tennessee)

McDowell, William (Pennsylvania)

McGee, James (Ireland)

McGregor, John (Scotland)

McKinney, Robert (Tennessee)

Melton, Eliel (Georgia)

Miller, Thomas R. (Tennessee)

Mills, William (Tennessee)

Millsaps, Isaac (Mississippi)

Mitchell, Edwin T. (Unknown)

Mitchell, Napoleon B. (Unknown)

Mitchusson, Edward F. (Virginia)

Moore, Robert B. (Virginia)

Moore, Willis A. (Mississippi)

Musselman, Robert (Ohio)

Nava, Andrés (Texas)

Neggan, George (South Carolina)

Nelson, Andrew M. (Tennessee)

Nelson, Edward (South Carolina)

Nelson, George (South Carolina)

Northcross, James (Virginia)

Nowlan, James (England)

Pagan, George (Unknown)

Parker, Christopher Adam (Unknown)

Parks, William (North Carolina)

Perry, Richardson (Texas)

Pollard, Amos (Massachusetts)

Reynolds, John Purdy (Pennsylvania)

Roberts, Thomas H. (Unknown)

Robertson, James Waters (Tennessee)

Robinson, Isaac (Scotland)

Rose, James M. (Ohio)

Rusk, Jackson J. (Ireland)

Rutherford, Joseph (Kentucky)

Ryan, Isaac (Louisiana)

Scurlock, Mial (North Carolina)

Sewell, Marcus L. (England)

Shied, Manson (Georgia)

Simmons, Cleveland Kinlock (South Carolina)

Smith, Andrew H. (Unknown)

Smith, Charles S. (Maryland)

Smith, Joshua G. (North Carolina)

Smith, William H. (Unknown)

Starr, Richard (England)

Stewart, James E. (England)

Stockton, Richard L. (New Jersey)

Summerlin, A. Spain (Tennessee)

Summers, William E. (Tennessee)

Sutherland, William DePriest (Unknown)

Taylor, Edward (Tennessee)

Taylor, George (Tennessee)

Taylor, James (Tennessee)

Taylor, William (Tennessee)

Thomas, B. Archer M. (Kentucky)

Thomas, Henry (Germany)

Thompson, Jesse G. (Arkansas)

Thomson, John W. (North Carolina)

Thruston, John, M. (Pennsylvania)

Trammel, Burke (Ireland)

Travis, William Barret (South Carolina)

Tumlinson, George W. (Missouri)

Tylee, James (New York)

Walker, Asa (Tennessee)

Walker, Jacob (Tennessee)

Ward, William B. (Ireland)

Warnell, Henry (Unknown)

Washington, Joseph G. (Kentucky)

Waters, Thomas (England)

Wells, William (Georgia)

White, Isaac (Alabama or Kentucky)

White, Robert (Unknown)

Williamson, Hiram James (Pennsylvania)

Wills, William (Unknown)

Wilson, David L. (Scotland)

Wilson, John (Pennsylvania)

Wolf, Anthony (Unknown)

Wright, Claiborne (North Carolina)

Zanco, Charles (Denmark)

John, a Black Freedman (Unknown)


36 posted on 03/06/2009 9:04:07 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Vigilanteman

I posted Adams’ account because up until recently, when I’d think of the Alamo, I’d only think of the rightful heroism of those brave Texans who chose to stay in that crumbling mission to face certain death against Santa Anna.

Most stories I heard about the Alamo gave short shrift to the background and focused on the heroism. This was reinforced for me the the 1960 “Alamo” film with John Wayne, which shows Mexican cannon artillery blasting the Alamo at the same time as the Mexican infantry charged. (i haven’t seen the 2004 movie version yet, so I don’t know about that one.)

Adams’ account was the first time I read that, in reality, there probably wasn’t any Mexican cannon at the time of the attack, and that it was just a brutal infantry charge on behalf of the Mexicans.

The Mexican army diary which Adams bases his account on also claimed, on hearsay, that Davy Crockett was one of the seven survivors captured at the end and that he went to his cold blooded execution by the Mexicans with no groveling like the brave man he was. It’s a matter of choosing which eyewitness to believe in matters like this, and I choose to believe the one cited earlier who said that Crockett died in hot blood fighting the Mexicans and his coonskin cap was at his side. Davy Crockett doesn’t come across as someone who would be among those captured seven men.


37 posted on 03/06/2009 9:06:35 PM PST by re_tail20
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Too few remember the murdered down in South Texas in Goliad - who were killed after leaving their fort.

In 2000, while driving from Houston to San Antonio, I visited the Coleto Creek battlefield, in what is now Fannin, Texas, where those murdered at Goliad had surrendered, and was the only visitor.

By contrast, the Alamo had scores, if not hundreds of visitors. It gets arouund four million per year. While in San Antonio, I visited the other eighteenth-century missions on the Mission Trail.

While in Houston, I drove out to La Porte to visit the San Jacinto battlefield--a must for anyone visiting Houston..

38 posted on 03/06/2009 9:08:08 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: re_tail20

There certainly could have been some “I’m Spartacus!” confusion at the end in an attempt to spare Crockett’s body from humiliation, or, equally, some other Texan hoping to be spared by claiming to be someone important.


39 posted on 03/06/2009 9:10:59 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-jB0VvhjFg

Donovan singing his version of Remember The Alamo.


40 posted on 03/06/2009 9:32:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Home of the Brave...


41 posted on 03/06/2009 9:35:30 PM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Amen


42 posted on 03/06/2009 10:09:31 PM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: vetvetdoug

Same here vet. A lot of those Tennesseans at the Alamo were from Madison County and Chester County


43 posted on 03/06/2009 10:21:49 PM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Fiddlstix

Nice map of the Republic of Texas, but I think they originally annexed everything west to the Pacific and everything south to Central America. Couldn’t enforce it obviously


44 posted on 03/06/2009 10:28:14 PM PST by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Remember the Angel of Goliad too!

Goliad’s Balm

http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/goliadangel.htm


45 posted on 03/06/2009 10:46:22 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Memphis Moe

Alamo Defender.

Miller, Thomas R. (Tennessee)

IIRC, Thomas had relocated to Gonzales, Texas prior to joining the force at the Alamo.

I salute my kin...


46 posted on 03/07/2009 12:22:37 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Charter Member, 58 Million Club)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I am a Texan and every April 30th I also give a nod to the French Foreign Legion by raising a glass to the men at Camerone, Mexico, 1862.

http://www.buybymail.com/catalogitem/ci0275954900.html


47 posted on 03/07/2009 12:30:40 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Remember The Alamo!!


48 posted on 03/07/2009 12:39:30 AM PST by BlessingsofLiberty
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

bttt


49 posted on 03/07/2009 12:43:23 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: Memphis Moe

Great list,,,

I saw one that had (Unknown Louisiana),,,(4-5?)...


50 posted on 03/07/2009 2:44:21 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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