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A decade after Headwaters deal, truce comes to Northern California redwood country
San Jose Mercury ^ | 03/08/2009 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 03/08/2009 5:59:46 PM PDT by artichokegrower

EUREKA — Chris Heppe climbed the trail at Headwaters Forest as sunlight streamed through the towering redwood trees.

Moisture glistened off a carpet of ferns. The only sound was the bubbling of a nearby stream.

"See that?'' he said, pointing to blue paint on an immense redwood 20 feet around and 1,000 years old. "That means it was going to be harvested. Cut down. But they never got to it."

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Interesting story. We taxpayers ended up paying $480 million, almost half a billion, for the Headwaters land. About 1,400 lumber workers lost their jobs. Various environmentalists or their "estates" successfully sued governmental, law enforcement or private corporations for millions of dollars. The end result is we own a chunk of land that we, humans, can not visit because of all of the endangered species living their. With the current economic situation I wand our money back.
1 posted on 03/08/2009 5:59:46 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I remember having the Pacific Lumber Company as a case study in one of my business text books back in the mid 1990’s.


2 posted on 03/08/2009 6:16:45 PM PDT by OCC
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It all started with the spotted owl hoax whereas while the enviro nuts pursued the law suit shutting down the timber industry and killing rural communities, spotted owls were found nesting under the eaves of a K-Mart across the street from enviro nut headquarters in Oregon.


3 posted on 03/08/2009 6:17:43 PM PDT by chambley1
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While I do not think much of the environuts, having stomped around 1500 year old redwoods, it sure is hard for me to feel like they should be cut down for any purpose, when in Canada they have more wood than you can shake a stick at, so to speak.
4 posted on 03/08/2009 6:22:59 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: artichokegrower

The commies continue to enslave America to their own selfish religion. How many houses could have been built and jobs saved if not for these communists?

Pray for America


5 posted on 03/08/2009 6:23:28 PM PDT by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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I grew up near Headwaters. It's not as large as you'd think, it's been sliced and diced for lumber already, and what's left is worth keeping.

I rarely agree with enviomentalists but in the case of the Headwaters, I supported them....old growth redwood forests are simply stunning. And we have very few of them left.

6 posted on 03/08/2009 6:39:10 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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I agree that a 1500 year old tree would be a source of wonder. It’s sad that the feds won’t allow anyone to go look at one. We paid for the park so let us use it. At least some of the laid off lumberjacks could maybe get a job in the tourist industry.


7 posted on 03/08/2009 6:41:38 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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You agree that if a tree is knocked over in a windstorm and lays next to the highway that it shouldn’t be harvested? Well, that’s the law you have to let it lie to rot which will take around 150yrs.

You happy that a mill that hired 1500 people filed bankruptcy for this? You happy those people are out of work? We have seen the abuse of those laws and they only point to this as an example. We see the 500 sq miles of forest fire that the commies won’t let the mills harvest. We see the fires they have started in protest that blackened 50 sq miles. They are all the same.

Pray for America


8 posted on 03/08/2009 7:07:47 PM PDT by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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9 posted on 03/08/2009 7:11:18 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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Don’t straw man me.


10 posted on 03/08/2009 7:20:51 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: LeoWindhorse

She’s probably drawing SSI for some disability incurred while living in a tree for two years. All of these activists come calling on the taxpayers to help support them in their later years as they never developed an actual career to support themselves.


11 posted on 03/08/2009 7:25:21 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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“In addition to preserving Headwaters Forest, the 1999 deal also gave 50-year protections to 11 “lesser cathedrals” of old-growth redwood nearby and set limits on how Pacific Lumber’s remaining lands could be logged.”

That is truth, not a straw dog. You happy this company is bankrupted? More ends justify the means to kill targeted industries.

Pray for America


12 posted on 03/08/2009 7:43:01 PM PDT by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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Public lands that are off-limits to the public. This is the green weenie’s dream for America.


13 posted on 03/08/2009 8:29:47 PM PDT by BigBobber
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Why don't you try reading what I wrote instead of fantasizing about what you wish I wrote because you want to jump down someones throat?

I said "In the case of the Headwaters" and nothing else.

You're the one who brought up all the other stuff that I didn't mention and framed it in the context of a statement I didn't make.

And frankly, prattling on like the lumber companies are wholly innocent victims in all this is pretty naive, on your part. Most of these companies logged themselves into a corner before they decided to recognize they were dealing with limited resource. Between the companies and the environmentalists, the only people who really are getting screwed are the loggers themselves who, by and large, are a pretty great group of people.

14 posted on 03/08/2009 10:27:10 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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How many parks full of redwoods is enough? We already have several big ones.


15 posted on 03/08/2009 10:31:59 PM PDT by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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“The end result is we own a chunk of land that we, humans, can not visit because of all of the endangered species living their. With the current economic situation I wand our money back. “

But the enviros don’t say a word about the Mexican drug cartels growing dope in thousands of acres of those ‘protected’ forests and parks.
It’s an amazing destruction of habitat. But then their lawyers can’t sue drug cartels like they can the federal government under the ESA to finance their madness.


16 posted on 03/08/2009 10:38:45 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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Headwaters is not just a stand of redwoods...it’s the watershed for Eureka, Fortuna and several other, smaller communities like Loleta and Fields Landing.


17 posted on 03/08/2009 11:03:01 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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Limited resource thanks to the enviroterrorists locking it up. Do you have a clue how much land is locked up to logging?? Do you realize that if a redwood falls next to the road down there you can’t touch it. That is why the mills are out of business. The mills have planted thousands of square miles and now are locked out of re-growth redwoods.

You write some nice cliches but your pretty uninformed. This tactic has been repeated throughout the economy and now we are enslaved by these people who use trees/oil/nuclear/coal/auto/banking... as a weapon. But hey, its the “headwaters” they really care.

Pray for America


18 posted on 03/09/2009 5:32:29 AM PDT by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The only good tree is a stump.
19 posted on 03/09/2009 5:37:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (You want me to buy heavy metal? Metallica?)
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Exactly right. It is sad to see what envirokookism has done to the North Coast. What was once a booming blue collar region has become an economically depressed area in which the only jobs are low-wage tourism positions or government work.


20 posted on 03/09/2009 7:28:16 AM PDT by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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