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Public Funding of Embryonic Stem Cell research
Life Site News ^ | 03-09-09 | Magdalene

Posted on 03/09/2009 9:39:20 AM PDT by magdalen

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To: magdalen
All the good work that W did on this, destroyed with the stroke of a pen:

Stem Cells and the President--an Inside Account [12/28/07]

61 posted on 03/09/2009 2:57:45 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Good as Gold)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

God forgave us at birth..
God help us.


You are right-——And God will judge us.


62 posted on 03/09/2009 3:51:54 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Apparently you do not remember. George Bush only gave them the existing stem cells already created - but denied any future stem cells.

His restriction is what all the Hollywood crowd were moaning about. How poor pitiful Michael Fox just could not be cured because of Bush.

And, the fact that you feel compelled to insult George Bush on a post about Obama’s presidency is very telling. Trying to divert the anger - huh??????????

Too late - George Bush is gone and WE KNOW WHAT HE DID AS PRESIDENT so try your nonsense on the DU crowd. They believe anything against George Bush.


63 posted on 03/09/2009 4:05:09 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: magdalen

Operation “Stem Cell Research” is nothing but mind control (i.e. based in the BIG LIE Technique).
TOne of two main goals is the same the as one of two main goals of the “Holocaust Denial” agenda: PAVE THE WAY for general acceptance of genocide.
“Ironically” this genocide is not about unborn babies.
That one has already been accepted long ago.


64 posted on 03/09/2009 4:11:47 PM PDT by VlPu
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To: ClancyJ

Sarcasm. It was sarcasm directed at all those crying out ‘Bushbot’ everytime someone pointed out that there was, in fact, a big difference between GWB and a Dem President.

I notice none of them have come back to apologize.


65 posted on 03/09/2009 4:28:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: magdalen

This is not “science” — it has everything to do with greed and profit. It is unnecessary to kill Embryos for this. Adult stem cells can do the same thing - derived from marrow, cord fat cells - every tissue in the body has stem cells. Even one’s own skin cells can be utilized.

I am for scientific advancement, but not for the government to play with human life. This is “social-enginnering” — to create clones and Obamabots and “happy people” that will follow their leader forever. It is a detriment to the human race.

Next up on Obama’s agenda: Late-term abortions will be the ‘law of the land’...


66 posted on 03/09/2009 6:21:42 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: magdalen

Sanctity of human life is paramount for a civilization to exist.


67 posted on 03/09/2009 8:09:02 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: a fool in paradise

Well said and isn’t it amazing that liberals say they don’t want “their” children exposed to God in any public venue or science class but not a peep about Christian tax-oayers funding this nonsense.

We pay for their failed public schools while we home-school or private school our kids. And we pay fot this godless nonsense.

It’s time we put a stop to ALL of it.


68 posted on 03/09/2009 9:15:10 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: jacquej

I’m sorry to hear about your husband. My next door neighbor has been fighting it for years. I don’t know if I could be strong enough to refuse treatment, but I admire you both for your choice. I’ll say a prayer for you both. I think that many who support embryonic stem cell research have been talked into believing that it is a miracle cure. It isn’t.


69 posted on 03/10/2009 4:45:22 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: mojitojoe
It means the best research opportunity since Germany in the early-1940's, the Golden Age of non-consenting lethal human experimentation.
70 posted on 03/10/2009 7:01:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: worst-case scenario; a fool in paradise
There never WAS a ban on this type of human experimentation during the Bush administration, by "executive edict" or any other method.

California (now in dire financial straits) committed three billion dollars to ESCR.

The disgraced former Governor of New Jersey, James McGreevey, established the state-funded Stem Cell Institute of New Jersey with tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds. Even in 2008, Massachusetts authorized one billion taxpayer dollars to fund ESCR.

They have produced nothing, not one damn thing, of therapeutic value, and yet those are funds that truly promising Adult Stem Cell rsearchers are NOT going to get.

But the point is, anyone--- individual, University, States, investment consortium, privately-financed research lab, whoever --- was free to pursue ESCR as long as federal funds were not involved.

The MSM says Bush "banned" it merely because he declined to fund it, limiting FEDERAL funding to already-existing embryo-sourced cell lines (still morally obejectionable, but it didn't involve victimizing newly begotten humans.)

71 posted on 03/10/2009 7:20:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." St. Augustine.)
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To: jacquej

God bless you, God bless you, God bless you and your husband abundantly for your faithfulness. Thank you for speaking out when you have the opportunity. We need to hear this: all of us: often.


72 posted on 03/10/2009 7:24:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who loves his neighbor, has fulfilled the whole law." Romans 13:8)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for pointing that out. So Obama is now removing the ban on federal funding, using the same method that Bush used to begin it: executive order.

Your point is that there was never a total ban on embryonic stem cell research, provided it was paid for with non-federal sources But this fact illustrates my other point: If you want to outlaw the research altogether, you would have to get Federal legislation passed, or a Constitutional amendment regarding human life beginning at conception.


73 posted on 03/10/2009 12:50:28 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: magdalen

The femonazi left needs taxpayers moneys to keep the abortion mills killing American children and some wonder why America is dying? Bad moral choices like tax funded abortion is a moral choice that GOD Almighty will not abide and we see America being destroyed by the ungodly secular left. Professing themselves to be wise, they are deluded fools.


74 posted on 03/10/2009 5:05:22 PM PDT by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: madameguinot
[Academia has become a political tool of Democrats, including science.]

Their science is junk science, their morals are reprehensible, their economics are financially destructive, and they themselves are mad.

75 posted on 03/10/2009 5:07:46 PM PDT by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Please use the /sarc tag. We don’t all read every post on a thread, so may not catch an unmarked sarcasm statement.

I react automatically to any attack on Bush after 8 years and many FR’s playing the “teach the GOP a lesson” ploy that got us Obama and possibly financial ruin and the destruction of every conservative ideal we ever put in government.

I’m a wee bit sensitive to Bush attacks.

Funny thing - now that they have Obama - they still feel they are big men if they include an attack on Bush (the most battered president in our history).


76 posted on 03/11/2009 2:21:00 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ

Not to worry, I didn’t take it personal, and if it hadn’t been sarcasm on on my part, you would have been dead on!


77 posted on 03/11/2009 4:18:42 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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