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Czech President Says Global Warming Activists Aim to Stop Global Economic Development
CNSNews ^ | March 10, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 03/10/2009 7:15:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) – Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic, told the International Conference on Climate Change that the true aim of environmentalists is to stop global development, not save the planet.

Klaus, an economist by trade and a skeptic of the theory of man-made global warming, delivered the keynote speech to an audience of more than 600, including 75 scientists, economists, and environmental policy experts, as the conference got underway in New York City on Sunday.

“Their true plans and ambitions: to stop economic development and return mankind centuries back,” he declared. “It is evident that the environmentalists don’t want to change the climate. They want to change our behavior. Their ambition is to control and manipulate us.”

Klaus, who also serves a president of the European Union, said that no modern economy could survive on “green power” alone because such methods are too expensive and unreliable.

“There is no known and economically feasible method or technology by which industrial economies can survive on expensive, unreliable, clean, green, renewable energy,” Klaus explained.

Klaus also criticized environmentalists who care more about an ambiguous future than they do about people living now. Klaus said we shouldn’t be less concerned with the people living in undeveloped countries today than we are with future generations.

“The questions which need to be answered are serious and non-trivial. Should we make radical decisions now? Should we tax today’s generations to benefit future generations? Should we be generously altruistic? Should we give preference to future generations and not to the people living in undeveloped countries today? My answer is no.”

Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorology professor Richard Lindzen, who also addressed the conference on Sunday, said that many of his colleagues simply accepted the man-made global warming theory because it made their professional lives easier.

“Most of the atmospheric scientists who I respect do endorse global warming,” he said. “The important point, however, is that the science that they do that I respect is not about global warming. Endorsing global warming just makes their lives easier.”

Lindzen also said that the intrusion of politics into science has corrupted the science, forcing scientists to adopt the “proper” political viewpoints in order to secure research funding.

“The process of co-opting science on behalf of a political movement has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science -- especially since the issue has been a major motivation for funding,” Lindzen explained.

“Most funding for climate would not be there without this issue,” Lindzen said, “and, it should be added, most science funded under the rubric of climate does not actually deal with climate, but rather with the alleged impact of arbitrarily assumed ‘climate change.’ ”

Anthony Watts, a retired meteorologist who currently studies how temperature is measured and presented his research results on Monday, said that while greenhouse gases can cause warming, the theory of man-made global warming has serious flaws.

“I believe that there is an effect from CO2 (carbon dioxide), no doubt about it,” Watts told CNSNews.com. “CO2 has made a change to our atmosphere and that change has resulted in some warming.

“But there are two components to the global warming theory that are in question right now. Many people believe that CO2--by itself--cannot explain all of the warming we have seen.

“The other problem has to do with the positive feedback mechanism. The positive feedback mechanism assumes--in the models and in the theory--that the warmer it gets on the Earth’s surface the more water vapor goes into the atmosphere; the more water vapor that goes into the atmosphere causes then more warming and therefore it builds on itself.”

This theory has problems, Watts explained, because it doesn’t account for how the atmosphere responds to an increase in water vapor--it rains.

“The alternate to that theory is that we have a negative feedback mechanism in our atmosphere and that once we reach certain points the natural systems will kick in and automatically reduce the amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere through precipitation.”

There’s much science doesn’t understand about the climate, Watts said, and anyone who thinks they completely understand it is delusional and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

“Anyone who claims that we fully understand our atmosphere in this day and age and can predict with accuracy any more than about a week or so out is deluding themselves because the atmosphere and our Earth’s systems are far more complex than we can model or we can predict given our current state of understanding.”

Scientists at the conference came from universities around the globe, including Harvard, Ohio State, University of Alabama, the London School of Economics, France’s Institute Pasteur, Canada’s Carleton University, Australia’s Monash and Central Queensland universities, Norway’s University of Oslo, the University of Virginia, Johns Hopkins and the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden.

The two-and-a-half day conference is sponsored by the Heartland Institute.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: agw; globalwarming

1 posted on 03/10/2009 7:15:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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“Anyone who claims that we fully understand our atmosphere in this day and age and can predict with accuracy any more than about a week or so out is deluding themselves because the atmosphere and our Earth’s systems are far more complex than we can model or we can predict given our current state of understanding.”

Algoracle can!................

2 posted on 03/10/2009 7:18:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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"Czech President Says Global Warming Activists Aim to Stop Global Economic Development"

Someone should send this guy an RNC chairman job application....

3 posted on 03/10/2009 7:19:28 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Mr. Mojo

A Politician GETS IT!!

There IS a GOD.. wish he’d talk to ALBORE, and straighten his crooked little MARXIST A** out!!


4 posted on 03/10/2009 7:21:04 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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From The Washington Times, January 12, 2009

Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

by Stephen Dinan

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.

lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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From GreenLeft.org

VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005

excerpts...

"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."

"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."

"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."

--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm

5 posted on 03/10/2009 7:21:35 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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6 posted on 03/10/2009 7:21:46 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: gwilhelm56

“There IS a GOD.. wish he’d talk to ALBORE, and straighten his crooked little MARXIST A** out!!”

I was thinking the same thing. My how things have flip flopped...the Gipper is rolling over in his grave. We take the Marxist stance under the guise of Global Warming while a former Soviet satellite is concerend (rightfully so) that it will hurt global economy development (ie, the free market economy).


7 posted on 03/10/2009 7:22:29 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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I’d like to swap presidents with the Czechs.


8 posted on 03/10/2009 7:23:53 AM PDT by pbear8 (Where's my TelePrompTer???)
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9 posted on 03/10/2009 7:25:33 AM PDT by maggief
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**My how things have flip flopped...**

I was trying VERY HARD NOT to think about that!!!


10 posted on 03/10/2009 7:27:37 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: pbear8

>>>I’d like to swap presidents with the Czechs.<<<

Me too. Normally, the “natural born citizen” requirement would prevent this, but....


11 posted on 03/10/2009 7:30:04 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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“I’d like to swap presidents with the Czechs.”

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I’d like to swap Presidents with the Nebulon race of mosquito larvae on the planet Swampos orbiting Alpha Centauri....


12 posted on 03/10/2009 7:41:00 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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“I’d like to swap Presidents with the Nebulon race of mosquito larvae on the planet Swampos orbiting Alpha Centauri....”

I think at this point I would rather have voted for him (her, it?) than McCain.


13 posted on 03/10/2009 7:43:17 AM PDT by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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No, he doesn’t, which is odd since his country is a former soviet satellite.

This is the hegelian dialectic in action. The globalists want to use global warming as a revenue generator for global government. They know people don’t believe in it, so they fund massive protests by ‘global warming activists’, who disrupt people from working and look for all the world,what they are, a communist agitation group. Most normal people opposes these, so under the dicotomy of the hegelian dialectic the only other choice is to be for ‘global economic development’ i.e. an unconstitutional carbon tax to be paid out of the US domestic economy.

Here is the fallacy that there is a choice for us. The global warming activists want the tax that will fund global government which will PROMOTE ‘global economic development’ to ‘stop global warming’. This is the part the globalists leave out when they make this ‘argument’. If you oppose the ‘global warming activists’ and want ‘global economic development’, you must pay the global warming carbon tax. If you believe in global warming like the ‘global warming activists’ then you must pay the global warming carbon tax.

‘Global economic development’ only exists when the American wage earning taxpayer pays for it. Most of the ‘bailout’money unconstitutionally removed from the US domestic economy is going to prop up foriegn companies and countries as part of ‘global economic development’.

You see? It’s all a ruse. Don’t fall for any of it. You’re going to get a global tax and global governemnt no matter whose side you are on in this false argument.


14 posted on 03/10/2009 7:47:29 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbear8

You must have read my mind!


15 posted on 03/10/2009 8:49:27 AM PDT by wrench
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Hey, a good read is a good read. :)


16 posted on 03/10/2009 9:25:00 AM PDT by pbear8 (Where's my TelePrompTer???)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 03/10/2009 9:47:44 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Yo, Washingtonians, the American people called. They DEMAND their country back.)
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To: ETL
The bad guys all support Global warming idiocy. The good guys, not so much. Funny how that works. Evil on the side of lies and hysteria. Good on the side of truth and logic. It's always the same.
18 posted on 03/10/2009 10:39:24 AM PDT by monday
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