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To: DJ MacWoW

Hutchinson eh? Yes, well he wouldn’t have been a Catholic Irishman with a name like that, he would have been descended from the English/Scottish borderers who caused so much trouble for London but whom King James I (”James VI” of Scotland; he was the Stuart king of Scotland who seized the throne of England) decided needed to be gotten away from the border region so he came up with the ingenious solution of shipping them to the north of Ireland to settle the lands there.

A century later they were superfluous to requirements as they had defeated the Irish natives and had successfully settled Ulster but now the government in London didn’t like them much for their rather individualistic, ‘democratic’, fundamentalist protestant, free born attitude to rule by English aristocrats and so a huge number of them emigrated out to the American colonies where their sharp shooting and frontier style of fighting which they had developed on the Scottish border and in Ireland proved useful. However in America they proved to be just as stubborn and resistant to London’s control as they ever had been and the rest as they say is history.

The “Scots Irish” have been largely written out of history because they don’t fit the typical “victim” status of the American immigrant story and being an “Irish-American” is always now assumed to be a descendant of the later Catholic Irish emigrants of the 19th Century. But if your people are descended from those ‘Hill Billys’ (the Ulstermen were followers of the Dutch protestant King William of Orange hence the fact that “Billy” is still to this day the favoured name of Ulster protestants) then they are descended from the people who created the modern United States no matter what the liberal media or university history departments might say.

Buy Webb’s “Born Fighting”, I guarantee you’ll be grateful you did.


20 posted on 03/16/2009 9:43:38 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick

I loved reading your post. My ancestors name was William Hutchinson. I guess he was a real “Hill Billy”. lol


21 posted on 03/16/2009 10:24:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
Coming from the Catholic Irish perspective, that was a good book, even though Webb fell off the deep end politically after writing it. A lot of it was borrowed from Albion's Seed, which is another one I recommend. From the Catholic side, I always liked the stories surrounding Archbishop John Hughes and New York. It was different than the more militant culture up in Boston that gives Yanks with last names like mine a bad rep on the other side of the Atlantic.

I do have a wee bit of Scots in me in an otherwise Green bloodline, and I don't know if it was Ulster or Scotland. They were originally Presbeyterians, but converted to Catholicism when one of them married an Catholic Irish woman. They were New York, but the Scots have Kansas roots, so I think it was Ulster. Someone's rolling in his grave with that conversion. It was a scandal from what I know. :)

38 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:51 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Obama = Jimmy Carter II)
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