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CA: Property taxes to increase despite falling home values
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 3/16/09 | Roger Showley

Posted on 03/16/2009 10:16:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: HamiltonJay

Didn’t think it. I agree with the consumption taxes. It is the only truly “fair tax”.


61 posted on 03/16/2009 12:08:32 PM PDT by graywaiter (You can't multiply wealth by dividing it.............Dr. Adrian Rogers)
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To: HamiltonJay

So dead last is now subjective and we each get to make up our own scale.
Certainly a novel thought, but may I suggest that when making up your own rating system that you not publish the results in all caps.

By the by - I went to CA public schools and did just fine.


62 posted on 03/16/2009 12:31:45 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: NormsRevenge

There is so much wrong in this article that it is clearly written by a tax and spend liberal media drone.


63 posted on 03/16/2009 1:05:31 PM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: Publius6961

As Tolstoy said, the only people who disagree with George are those who don’t know him. However, the advantage ignorance has over stupidity is that ignorance can be cured. Start with this question - how does land become private property?

Communism and socialism predate George. Fascism is only socialism enforced by brown shirts.

If you have ever noticed, we do not buy Real Estate. We buy a “bundle of rights.” These rights are further compromised by things like eminent domain and zoning. George’s system is basically more honest then the current myth.

Once we realize that land is common property, it makes sense for government to finance itself solely by taking all the rent which accrues from the exclusive use of land (but not from the buildings attached to the land).


64 posted on 03/16/2009 1:23:19 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: RC2
They supposedly have a “system” that is used. They compile a number of comps within your area and one of the comps he used at the time was from 9 months earlier. I told him values had dropped dramatically since then which was apparent with the more current comps I had produced. He kept going back to his “system” which allowed him to use the very old comp too. That comp blew the whole median average for the other comps, it being significantly higher in valuation. If he pulls the same trick on me this year I WILL go ahead and appeal it.
65 posted on 03/16/2009 1:58:39 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: RC2
If the values of homes has gone down, taxes should also go down

I think the article is purposely confusing and probably misled you.

Property taxes won't diminish until the market value is significantly less than the assessed valuation. In California today, many homes have been protected by Prop 13 for so long that their assessed valuation is still significantly less (60% less) than their current market value, even in a bear market.

As an example; a typical, California home ($100K) entered into Prop 13 protection in 1979 may today only have an assessed valuation of $125K while the market valued has plunged from $350K two years ago to $275K today. The assessed valuation is still, however, more than $250K below market. That house would continue to be appraised upward this year by 2%.

66 posted on 03/16/2009 2:27:19 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: HamiltonJay
Hahahaha.. its also part of the reason why California schools are ranked DEAD LAST in the nation.

From this "analysis," I would have sworn yours was.

There is no correlation between spending and performance. None.

67 posted on 03/16/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: HamiltonJay

You really seem to be all over the board on this. You comment that property taxes should be higher, then say you are no fan. You contend that more taxes will help the school situation, then acknowledge that pupil performance is low given the already generous amount of dollars thrown at public education. And now, you are back to talking about “price controls.”

Question: Are you aware of that property taxes represent only 20% of school funding and the rest of the funding comes from other taxes? Are you aware that Prop 98 dedicates (and guarantees) an obscene amount of the State’s General Fund to education? I think not.


68 posted on 03/16/2009 5:45:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Its [sic] the Wellstone Principle.

What's the "Its the Wellstone Principle?" Searching through Google provided no clear definition. Thanks in advance.

Regards,

69 posted on 04/20/2009 6:48:06 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
It was named for the late Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone. Libs in the North Star State still display yard his yard signs though he died six or seven years ago.
Its is correct, btw.
70 posted on 04/20/2009 7:00:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Its is correct, btw.

No, the meaning was: "It is the Wellstone Principle."

"It is" can be contracted to "It's," but not to "its."

Rather, "its" is a possessive pronoun (like "his," "her," "my," or "their"). Just as it would make no sense to write "My the Wellstone Principle," it would be wrong to write "Its the Wellstone Principle."

You're welcome! (Or, if you insist: "Your welcome!)

Regards,

Its [sic] the Wellstone Principle.

71 posted on 04/20/2009 12:08:56 PM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek

It’s implies ownership. The contraction is without the apostrophe.


72 posted on 04/20/2009 12:15:41 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: alexander_busek

Write much ?


73 posted on 04/20/2009 5:58:05 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Write much ?

I'm a professional copy-editor and German-English translator. And yes: I've helped edit dictionaries.

Regards,

74 posted on 04/21/2009 8:56:41 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It’s implies ownership. The contraction is without the apostrophe.

I recommend consulting the following website:

http://www.stormloader.com/garyes/its.html

Regards,

75 posted on 04/21/2009 9:05:51 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek

10 years in the scribbling profession as an editor, reporter and statehouse correspondent for a television chain.


76 posted on 04/21/2009 11:04:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
10 years in the scribbling profession as an editor, reporter and statehouse correspondent for a television chain.

Well, then I'm sincerely surprised that you were not aware of the proper usage of these words, and even admonished me for using them correctly.

Did you visit the website I recommended?

Here's a summary from yet another website (http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/its.html) dealing with this issue:

These two English words are very often used incorrectly by native speakers. It's important that you understand the difference.

It's

It's is a contraction of "it is" or "it has."

It's time to go.

Do you think it's ready?

I read your article - it's very good.

Do you know where my purse is? It's on the table.

It's been a long time.

Its

Its is the possessive form of "it."

That's an interesting device - what is its purpose?

I saw Les Misérables during its initial run.

This stove has its own timer.

The bird lost some of its feathers.

Where is its head office?

The Bottom Line

The confusion between it's and its occurs because on virtually every other word 's indicates possession, so English speakers naturally want to use it's to mean "something belonging to it." But it's is only used when it's a contraction of it is or it has.

The ironclad rule - no exceptions - is that if you can replace the word with "it is" or "it has," use it's. Otherwise, it's always its.

Regards,

77 posted on 04/21/2009 11:43:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
The cat lays on its back...
I can always use a good edit.
78 posted on 04/21/2009 11:50:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I can always use a good edit.

We can all use a good editing.

Regards,

79 posted on 04/22/2009 9:25:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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