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To: 2ndClassCitizen

It would be reckless and probably wrong to resist gun confiscation...

This is where I think you might be wrong. Don’t we have far more power than we realize?

Very simple, what if everyone, EVERYONE refused to turn in their guns?

They can’t possibly jail everyone that stands UNITED.

This is what they are afraid of people doing.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by pantherskincreek
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To: pantherskincreek
pantherskincreek said: "They can’t possibly jail everyone that stands UNITED."

I think the poster was suggesting that one not resist at the moment that the enemy is at the door. Tactically, it's the wrong time and place to fight. There's too high a probability that you will sacrifice your life or freedom without causing the enemy any discomfort. If it is truly the last chance to fight, then you have to do it.

53 posted on 03/16/2009 4:13:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: pantherskincreek
Very simple, what if everyone, EVERYONE refused to turn in their guns?

It would probably follow the Pareto principle (aka 80-20 rule) with 80% failing to comply as is estimated to be the compliance percentage for NYC gun laws.

Read the following for an academic discussion.

IMAGINING GUN CONTROL IN AMERICA:
UNDERSTANDING THE REMAINDER PROBLEM
http://lawreview.law.wfu.edu/documents/issue.43.837.pdf

59 posted on 03/16/2009 5:05:10 PM PDT by dmcnash (Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes!)
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To: pantherskincreek
It would be reckless and probably wrong to resist gun confiscation...

As a Christian I have given that matter a lot of thought myself. While it's true that the Apostle Paul tells us that God commands us to obey the laws of the land where we live whether we think they are fair and just or not, I believe that it is also true that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the USA and overrides any and all conflicting laws that may be enacted by Congress or the individual states and local authorities. After having considered the matter from both sides of the question as objectively as my admitted prejudices allow, I have come to the conclusion that overly restrictive laws, including gun laws, that exceed constitutional limits on government's delegated powers are not binding on Christians or non-Christians, although as a practical matter we may suffer unjust penalties for breaking those unconstitutional laws.

After considering all facets of the situation as best I understand the biblical mandate to obey man's law and the matter of government's intrusion on the people's rights protected by the supreme law of the land, I have no compunction about disobeying laws that are in blatant conflict with the Supreme Law of the United States that defines and protects some but not all of our God-given rights. One such right is the right to keep and bear arms which has providentially been affirmed by a U.S. Supreme Court decision that resolves the controversy concerning the original intent of the authors. From now on, unless I am shown proof that I am wrong in my conclusion about the supremacy of the Constitution over conflicting laws I do not consider disobedience to laws and regulations contrary to the 2nd Amendment to be a violation of God's commandment to obey even the unjust laws of the land.

I am open to further discussion and consideration of differing opinions on the issue if anyone else has arrived at a conclusion or is in the process of deciding the matter for himself or herself.

82 posted on 03/16/2009 10:31:50 PM PDT by epow (The best argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter..Churchill)
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