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Children come with a high carbon cost
New Scientist ^ | 3/15/2009

Posted on 03/16/2009 5:17:44 PM PDT by markomalley

WHAT is your carbon legacy - not the emissions you are personally liable for, but those of your descendants? Ask Paul Murtaugh, a statistician at Oregon State University in Corvallis.

If you have a child, he says, you and you partner are each responsible for half its emissions. If that child has kids, one-quarter of their emissions are down to you, and so on. How it adds up depends on population trends and emission changes in the future.

Murtaugh used UN population projections, which say that after 2050, birth rates in all countries will be 1.85 children per woman, on average. Then he took three emissions futures: rising business-as-usual emissions, constant emissions, and "save-the-planet" levels that fall to half a tonne of CO2 per capita per year by 2100.

With rising future emissions, each extra child in the US would eventually result in eight times the lifetime carbon footprint of the average US resident today. Even with constant per-capita emissions, it's nearly six times - or nearly 10,000 tonnes of CO2.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: carboncult; co2; envirowhackos; globalwarming; idiots; junkscience; socialists; treehuggers; wontleadbyexample
Does that mean that I should kill my kid?

After all, it's "for the children!"

1 posted on 03/16/2009 5:17:44 PM PDT by markomalley
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(SORRY: forgot the “barf alert” tag on the title)


2 posted on 03/16/2009 5:19:04 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

This goes along with Pelosi’s thinking. Sick.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 5:19:55 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: markomalley

You would think these Malthusians would give up by now.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:15 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (President B. Hussein Obama? That will leave some Marx!)
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To: markomalley

And here they expose themselves. They’re not about living more lightly on the earth, they’re about not living at all.


5 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:53 PM PDT by coydog (Proud to have slept through the Obama coronation!)
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To: markomalley
Liberals, stop reproducing.

Lead by example.

6 posted on 03/16/2009 5:22:23 PM PDT by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: markomalley; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

Carbon Scam/POGW
More propaganda..


7 posted on 03/16/2009 5:22:48 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: markomalley

Boy, that sure wasn’t CO2 my son used to emit!


8 posted on 03/16/2009 5:23:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: markomalley
each extra child

How does he determine which children are surplus?

And once he identifies them, what does he want to do with them?

9 posted on 03/16/2009 5:25:11 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: markomalley

Just send them back. My question to this guy is “So what?”


10 posted on 03/16/2009 5:25:20 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: markomalley

“Children Come with a High Carbon Cost”

An example of a statement from an insane mind.

IMHO


11 posted on 03/16/2009 5:25:29 PM PDT by ripley
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To: SIDENET

“Liberals, stop reproducing.
Lead by example.”

Well, the homo’s have...they are essentially a “self-licking lollipop,” so to speak...they kind of make themselves extinct, so, there is that.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 5:26:26 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: ripley; markomalley; xcamel

added keywords “carboncult” and “junkscience”


13 posted on 03/16/2009 5:26:39 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: markomalley
If you have a child, he says, you and you partner are each responsible for half its emissions.

Actually we am responsible for all its emissions although I expect grandma will change diapers occasionally.

14 posted on 03/16/2009 5:27:01 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: markomalley

I think this is a way to give George Tiller “carbon credits” that he can then convert to cash and give back to the politicians as political contributions!


15 posted on 03/16/2009 5:27:11 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: markomalley

People, we are PAYING for this crap, with our taxes. The government twerps take OUR MONEY and use it to pay for this obnoxious crap.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 5:27:16 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: markomalley

Save the environment,
kill an environmentalist.


17 posted on 03/16/2009 5:28:38 PM PDT by TheDon (B.O. stinks!)
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To: markomalley

Yes, do it tonight. Then you can call his school tomorrow and tell them he won’t be attending class anymore and how lucky the world will be without a kid who farts and burps all the time.


18 posted on 03/16/2009 5:28:41 PM PDT by goldi
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To: markomalley; Horusra; Delacon; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

19 posted on 03/16/2009 5:32:05 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: markomalley

This used to be an actual scientific mag. Really.

No longer. The monster raving loonies have taken over.


20 posted on 03/16/2009 5:33:34 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: markomalley
If you have a child, he says, you and you partner are each responsible for half its emissions. If that child has kids, one-quarter of their emissions are down to you, and so on. How it adds up depends on population trends and emission changes in the future.

That means my parents are jointly responsible for one hundred percent of my emissions (.5x2). And my grandparents are jointly responsible for one hundred percent of my emissions (.25x4). The way I look at it, that gives me personally a lot of leeway for emissions, since my parents and grandparents are jointly responsible for 200 percent of them.

21 posted on 03/16/2009 5:38:29 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (What's Black and White and Red all over?)
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To: markomalley

Paul Murtaugh, a statistician at Oregon State University in Corvallis REALLY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE!!! What a moron. Paul! Go to your room and play with your numbers you idiot!


22 posted on 03/16/2009 5:41:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: Da Coyote

So how do we calculate the carbon emissions of the Octomom using his formulas?


23 posted on 03/16/2009 5:42:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: markomalley

Today President Obortion signed the new executive order for a $60,000 annual carbon tax on each child, unless they are slaughtered and donated for stem cell research.


24 posted on 03/16/2009 5:44:10 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Can’t we just buy carbon credits and neutralize all that anyway? I thought that’s the purpose of the carbon credits and Obama’s cap and trade proposal.


25 posted on 03/16/2009 5:44:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly. Of course, I think that’s what the lefties have in mind. Taxing parents for the children that they have. It’s a sick, sick, sick world.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 5:46:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: JimWforBush; martin_fierro; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida; Tijeras_Slim; RockinRight; ...

FREERIDER ping!


27 posted on 03/16/2009 5:48:09 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: markomalley
SORRY: forgot the “barf alert” tag on the title

I think you can be forgiven. It's almost built into the title of the article itself. The only time anyone should be excoriated for failing to give a barf alert is when the title doesn't inherently tell you that the article to follow is enraging, nauseating BS.

28 posted on 03/16/2009 5:53:52 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: markomalley
If you have a child, he says, you and you partner are each responsible for half its emissions.

Thereby absolving my kid of any. Ummm... send me a bill after I'm dead & gone, okay?

Oh by the way, my emissions are my grandparents' responsibility -- same thing applies, got it?

29 posted on 03/16/2009 6:09:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: markomalley
Mr. Murtaugh doesn't have children. He has cats.

He also hates Bush and loves kayaking with the boys. Draw your own conclusions...

The Web Site of Paul

30 posted on 03/16/2009 6:26:10 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (I ain't gonna work on Barry's farm no more...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
To the author: Well, do you want to keep the CO2-emitting kid who becomes the brain surgeon who operates on your sorry brain to save your life down the road?

Oh, no, that was the kid you killed as an embryo in the hopes that some grisly experiment on his tiny body would cure your brain cancer?

brain cancer = insert whatever disease or ailment

We will reap what we sow.

31 posted on 03/16/2009 6:26:17 PM PDT by elk ((A Member of the Silent 58)TM)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Abort them of course.


32 posted on 03/16/2009 6:46:01 PM PDT by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: advance_copy

Meanwhile the Chinese take tax money from their citizenry and make weapons and train their military.


33 posted on 03/16/2009 6:47:30 PM PDT by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Don’t blame the kitties, they’re innocent. Blame their dumb owner.


34 posted on 03/16/2009 7:03:37 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (One Big Ass Mistake America!)
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To: TheDon
Save the environment,
kill an environmentalist.

Save the world,
Kill a politician!

35 posted on 03/16/2009 7:14:58 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Slings and Arrows
Mr. Murtaugh and Mrs. Fierro doesn't don't have children. He has They have cats.

HeThey also hates think Bush was OK and loves kayaking with the boys FReeping. Draw your own conclusions.

36 posted on 03/16/2009 8:45:47 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: markomalley; xcamel; fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385; BillyBoy

“WHAT is your carbon legacy”

“If you have a child, he says, you and you partner are each responsible for half its emissions. If that child has kids, one-quarter of their emissions are down to you, and so on.”

I cannot believe this BS.

I’m gonna look for ways to increase my carbon footprint.


37 posted on 03/16/2009 8:57:30 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: martin_fierro; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; NYC GOP Chick; ...
It's at times like this that I like to refer to the classics.

Also, I would like to welcome the members of the Miscellaneous ping list, which has merged with the Not-A-Ping-List ping list. Your decoder rings and brain-implant microchips will be arriving via FedEx. No need to send contact info; we know where you live.


38 posted on 03/16/2009 9:41:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Ever think "That'd make a great name for a rock band?" http://twitter.com/newbandnames)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Looks like the enviro-wackos are working hard lately.
39 posted on 03/16/2009 9:47:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

They have the strength of madness.


40 posted on 03/16/2009 9:47:48 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Ever think "That'd make a great name for a rock band?" http://twitter.com/newbandnames)
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To: martin_fierro

Mr. Fierro isn’t obviously gay... so don’t take it too personally.


41 posted on 03/17/2009 5:43:12 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (I ain't gonna work on Barry's farm no more...)
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